• I’m not opposed to change. I love good change and hate bad change. Gutenberg is the latter.

    Never mind the bugs. Adding even a bug-free Gutenberg to the core would be A Bad Thing.

    It’s a horribly convoluted, non-intuitive, confusing and inefficient way of creating content. Everything is a block? Seriously? Who thinks like that when writing content? Back to the drawing board.

    If you really must continue with this trainwreck, it should be a plugin. Bundle it like Akismet if you insist, but just keep it the heck away from me and my users.

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  • Plugin Author Tammie Lister

    (@karmatosed)

    Thanks for taking time to review @blognaus. Whilst I understand you don’t like the approach of Gutenberg, is there anything you feel in the application should be taken into the future of WordPress?

    Thread Starter blognaus

    (@blognaus)

    I guess something like Gutenberg might be useful as an optional page builder for those people who have a need to arrange various media in a non-straightforward way and can cope with its interface idiosyncrasies.

    That’s not to say it’s suitable for written content on a page or a post; it’s not. Anything that uses the block approach certainly shouldn’t be the default editor. That’s not how people write. The block approach is an awkward obstruction between the user’s brain and the written content ending up on a web page.

    The recent idea I saw of de-highlighting everything but the current block also isn’t how people write, and it indicates to me that the people doing the design don’t really understand the requirements of a very large portion of the user base.

    I should point out that I’m not some Luddite naysayer who’s opposed to change. When I saw the notice for Gutenberg I was genuinely excited to try it out, because the classic editor is certainly imperfect and old-fashioned and could do with improving. I had real enthusiasm for what sounded like A Good Thing.

    My enthusiasm turned to dismay when I actually tried to use Gutenberg. It really was the most counter-intuitive and awkward editing experience of my life. I’ve used large numbers of web and text editors and word processors over many years, some with very arcane interfaces. WordStar, for example. Norton Editor. Programming editors. Various HTML editors. You name it.

    None of them were as obstructive to the writing process as Gutenberg. None. It was the absolute worst editing experience ever. And this is for a task (text editing with the option of inserting a few other things) that has basically been a solved problem for many years. You’ve solved a problem that didn’t exist, and you’ve created a different problem that also didn’t exist.

    I’ve built a few sites for community groups using WordPress and have been able to leave them in the hands of non-expert volunteers to maintain and fill with content. I don’t think a single one of those volunteers could deal with Gutenberg. If this thing is as inevitable as it seems, I’m now horribly embarrassed that I have put those groups into the position where they are soon not going to be able to maintain their sites without help.

    I’m sorry if you’ve put your heart and soul into this thing and are dismayed by its reception, but you really do need to hear what large numbers of people are saying. We’re not a minority of whiners opposed to change. We’re trying to convince you not to do something to WordPress that has a significant chance of killing it, and a 100% chance of harming it.

    That’s why I say: “Make it go away”. Please listen.

    Thread Starter blognaus

    (@blognaus)

    I would also encourage you to re-read this from the viewpoint of the users who are reviewing and commenting here.

    https://tam.blog/2017/01/the-user-is-the-casualty-of-our-modern-building-process/

    Please don’t make us your casualties.

    Andrew Nevins

    (@anevins)

    WCLDN 2018 Contributor | Volunteer support

    @blognaus, I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that you didn’t read my message about posting in other people’s threads.

    Here it is again and I’ll leave it public.

    Your comment was moderated because it was not contributing towards the persons review. You are very welcome to post on other people’s reviews, but you have to be constructive and help them in some way. Please don’t go after the volunteers trying to help reviewers.

    Thread Starter blognaus

    (@blognaus)

    > posting in other people’s threads.

    You might want to check who started this thread.

    Thread Starter blognaus

    (@blognaus)

    > Sure, it’s great for that 300 wrd blog about a handbag

    Personally, I don’t think it’s great for that either unless you’re putting all 300 words in one paragraph.

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