• Resolved John

    (@dsl225)


    Hello,

    I want to implement your excellent plugin to a site that already runs WP Fastest Cache + Autoptimize in a complementary way: Fastest Cache is enabled to optimize CSS and images with CDN and Autoptimize for minifying HTML and JS.

    I would be inclined to de-activate Autoptimize when running your plugin and enabling minifying with yours. May I ask what would you recommend?

    Thanks!

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  • Plugin Author Gabe Livan

    (@gabelivan)

    @dsl225 you can use WP Fastest Cache for the actual page caching and minify/combine CSS/JS with Asset CleanUp or WP Fastest Cache + Autoptimize (just for minify/combine) + Asset CleanUp which will reduce Autoptimize’s CSS/JS final files.

    It’s all about what works on your website. I’d recommend the first option first as Asset CleanUp’s features work very well together and see how it goes (never use multiple plugins for the same feature such as minify/combine assets as it would lead to more server resources, harder management of the settings obviously and in some cases, a slower page load as it could end up in duplicate minified code).

    No matter what plugins you’re using, always check the browser’s console (right-click, Inspect in Chrome) for any errors (if it happens, it’s usually JavaScript related ones) after you’re done with the optimization. Don’t just load the page and see that it loads fine, it’s just not enough.

    Thread Starter John

    (@dsl225)

    Many thanks for this.
    My own evaluation was also pointing to the first option.

    Good point to check the console!
    I run a test at a temp site and I only get this which is fine:

    Asset CleanUp: “LIVE MODE” (test mode is not enabled, thus, all the plugin changes are visible for everyone: you, the logged-in administrator and the regular visitors)

    PS: as a sidenote I wanted to let you know that I didn’t receive follow-up emails from wp.org when you replied to all 3 of my messages, although the related option (Notify me of follow-up replies via email) is checked and I well received notifications a couple of days ago from other support tickets. Might be a temporary issue at wp.org or maybe only related to this plugin support?

    Plugin Author Gabe Livan

    (@gabelivan)

    I’m glad it made sense! Happy testing!

    You’re not getting follow up emails from me most likely because my account is in moderation mode.

    I’ve broken some rules here on www.ads-software.com such as asking for credentials (privately) from people to fix the issues they had on their websites in relation to Asset CleanUp. Although I meant only good, it’s just not allowed to do that here and if they see this message (which they will as it has to be manually approved), I hope they will remove my moderation status which is not such a good thing anymore as I learned my lesson ??

    Sometimes, I’m replying to a topic in ~10 minutes, and my reply is approved after ~4 hours which is not ideal.

    Andrew Nevins

    (@anevins)

    WCLDN 2018 Contributor | Volunteer support

    You were unflagged on the 9th of April, but on the 12th we discovered occurrences of asking for admin access over the past 3 years and you were re-flagged. I’ve un-flagged you now after 3 weeks, which is not a big deal for 3 years of rule breaking. In future you should talk to use directly instead of taking this onto someone’s support topic.

    Edit: Find us on the #forums channel in Slack: https://wordpress.slack.com

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    Plugin Author Gabe Livan

    (@gabelivan)

    @anevins Asking for “admin access” was a rule I simply missed and, of course, it was always in goodwill. Once I was aware of it, I just stopped asking for credentials and I felt having the account in moderation is not justifiable anymore.

    The first flag ever was related to a totally different matter because of an absurd poor review over a thing not related to the plugin.

    I’ll try to reach you on the Slack channel, thanks for the tip!

    Thread Starter John

    (@dsl225)

    I confirm I just received 2 email alerts for the 3 messages above.
    Maybe the third one will follow.

    @anevins one question though: what is the recommended procedure to follow for us users in such cases – when we welcome assistance from devs?

    Andrew Nevins

    (@anevins)

    WCLDN 2018 Contributor | Volunteer support

    Do you mean assistance via ftp/ admin access?

    Thread Starter John

    (@dsl225)

    Yep, right, something like that.
    Often, we are stuck with an issue that is difficult to describe without the dev being able at least to visit the website and at best to login.

    I never publish here links of my sites and i often face this issue. How to provide this information (link or admin credentials) to the dev when he offers this opportunity to us?

    Andrew Nevins

    (@anevins)

    WCLDN 2018 Contributor | Volunteer support

    It’s nothing personal, but there is a blanket response on users and plugin and theme authors not to do that. Nobody has been given an exception for it and over time people have been banned for it.

    Say if you have an issue and you cannot solve it at the forum level, then you need to leave the forum and retry for a solution elsewhere. For instance you can contact the author directly and organise that. I’m also a professional developer and I can tell you that logging into live sites is very bad practice in the industry, and that I discourage it even if someone requests it.

    If we discover however that the author (not accusing anyone here) is taking users from these forums to their own site to solicit that level of access then we’ll moderate that and their account.

    Thread Starter John

    (@dsl225)

    @anevins thanks for this, I fully understand and it’s good to know for the future.
    Was not aware of that.

    Most of the time the request is as simple as providing the site’s link though and I really never post those links in public forums. So, may the author provide a private email in such cases?

    Andrew Nevins

    (@anevins)

    WCLDN 2018 Contributor | Volunteer support

    Yeah that’s what I mean by this bit:

    If we discover however that the author (not accusing anyone here) is taking users from these forums to their own site to solicit that level of access then we’ll moderate that and their account.

    If we find out the authors are circumventing what we have in place to protect users they’ll get a limited amount of harsh warnings.

    Thread Starter John

    (@dsl225)

    @anevins sorry but I still don’t get it.

    – May the author provide a private email in such cases, yes or no?

    Example: the author of a plugin/theme offers his time to check the implementation of his plugin/theme at a user’s site but the user doesn’t want to publish the site’s URL here.

    What is the recommended action here?
    You said: “For instance you can contact the author directly and organise that.”
    For contacting the author I would need his contact details.

    – Is the author allowed to provide them?

    And I still don’t understand the meaning of this sentence in relation to the above:

    “If we discover however that the author is taking users from these forums to their own site to solicit that level of access then we’ll moderate that and their account.”

    If the author is allowed to be contacted and to provide his contact details for that purpose, I don’t well understand what this forum’s moderation has to do from that point which is considered to be private by definition. I mean if the user is willing to provide his site’s credentials to anyone on this earth by private email, it will be his own decision and it relates to his own self hosted site – his property. I don’t well understand what the scope of this forum’s rules have to do in such private matters.

    Or did I get all this wrong?

    Andrew Nevins

    (@anevins)

    WCLDN 2018 Contributor | Volunteer support

    Users cannot use www.ads-software.com as a medium to solicit that. That’s why it involves us.

    We’re not saying they can’t contact the author, we’re saying they can’t post on the forums and ask for private email so that they can share admin details.

    Likewise users can’t post on the forums and ask for the plugin author/ theme author to provide an email, and share admin details through that. Because that’s the same thing.

    Thread Starter John

    (@dsl225)

    OK, thanks, got it.
    The point is not to share admin details not email addresses.

    Andrew Nevins

    (@anevins)

    WCLDN 2018 Contributor | Volunteer support

    No, the point is to stop using www.ads-software.com to share admin details in any form, i.e do not share through the author’s contact form, their email address and do not provide your own contact methods. Do what you like elsewhere.

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