Feature request to the rating system

Sounds usefull, and therefor worth implementing.

My proposal.

1. Rating period

Pls look at a photo info screen (album admin -> edit album, scroll down to a photo).
You will see the status selectionbox. selct scheduled: a date/time form opens.
Also tick the Delete at checkbox. Aslo a dat/time form opens.
My suggestion is now to add to the album admin form (on top of the list of photo infos) the following checkboxes/date/time forms: Start rating at and End rating at.
The default behaviour (both checkboxes unchecked) is as it is now. The rating system must be enabled anyway to do any rating (Table II-B7), and rating modifyable according to the setting of Table IV-E2 et5c.
You will have to manually set the start and end of the ratable interval on an album basis on those albums where it is applicable only.

2. Photo name

The proposal is to leave the photoname as it is defined in Table IX-D13 (New photo name), but to add an extra w#-keyword that tells you the sequence order of the photo in the album on a basis of upload time.
Alternatively – only if you have set the photo sequence order method set to timestamp or timestamp desc a keyword that specifies the sequence order number in the album (not to be confused with the sequence order number when the method is set to sequence number).
Then, in either of these 2 cases, you can display this w#-keyword in the descriptionfied (and hide the name – temporary).
For how w#-keywords work, see https://wppa.nl/docs-by-subject/keywords/

BTW: Just an ‘enable rating’ checkbox on the album admin form that works immediately would be much less programming effort, but then you will have to switch rating of yourself, not automatically.

Thank you for taking care of this!

1. it’s ok if I start and stop the rating manually, especially since the dates often shift.

2. hiding the photo name display for this album and taking the description field as the name should fit. The photo name would then be blank. I just tried it and is ok.

I notice that I see the username, is it possible to temporarily turn that off as well for the duration of the rating?

The sequence number in the album as a reference for the W# keyword would be very good, then I have a consecutive number and that looks better in the rating view.

Hiding the field for the photo name, possibly also username, would then all be done with one click for the duration of the rating with one click?

Many greetings
Horst

To make it more general usable and keep it comprehensive, i am making the following changes to the album admin screen:
https://wppa.nl/wp-content/uploads/wppa-source/album-99/Display-options.jpg
This means that the systemwide settings for name, description, rating and comments can be overruled on an album basis; at first for the display in slideshows and under thumbnails (later also for lightbox).

The 4 settings can be yes, no or default, like the setting for zoomable.
Hoovering the selectioboxes shows the tables where the systemwide setting are and their current values.

I have already implemented photo keyword w#seqno, being the placeholder for the actual sequence order no of the photo – according to the photos album sequence order method setting – to be used in the photo description.

If you hide the display of the photo name, and you set Table II-B5.1 and Table II-D2 instead of using w#owner, the owners name is automatically hidden when the display of the photo name is set to no.

If you switch the rating off, you can still display the avarage rating by using keyword w#rating

I have the feeling that this suits your needs, if i overlooked something, pls tell me.

It will take a few days (implementing 8 things and testing 24 possibilities), but as you know now, i am working on it.

To be continued

Wonderful,
that sounds very good and think so it should work. I am looking forward to the implementation.

Pls do the following:

– Download https://downloads.www.ads-software.com/plugin/wp-photo-album-plus.7.7.01.002.zip
– Install as described here: https://wppa.nl/docs-by-subject/development-version/

From the changelog:

* New feature: On the album admin page (Edit album information) one can now overrule the following default settings for the items in the album:
display name, description, rating and comments. You can select default to use the systemwide setting, yes to display or no to hide the attribute regardless of the systemwide setting.
This works for slideshows, thumbnails and lightbox, where applicable.
* Fixes: Slideshow animation type swipe only worked for next slide but did not wor for previous slide. Fixed.
* Removed obsolete css attribute enable-background on svg elements and missing colors for svg tags are now replaced by transparent.

If any issue or question, pls tell me

Thank you, that was fast.
I installed the software and found the following.

This did not work to hide the usernames.
Table II-B5.1 and Table II-D2. is set, and the I set in the admin page for display photo name = no. But the username still appears.
The file name, however, is not visible, as desired.
The other two switches work.

Is there a way to change the album description as a batch.
Now I have to edit the description for each photo with the corresponding keyword (w#seqno). While a contest this field should be empty and you could also enter a text + keyword there during the upload to show the filename over the description.

A 2nd thing was mentioned to me by a tester.
We rate the photos with 10 points.The stars seemed to me best of the visibility. i have changed the stars to 20px. however, the exact match is always a bit cumbersome if you want to rate many photos quickly. Could this be highlighted a little more clearly?
Possibly also next to the stars still a numerical display as a control.`

best regards
Horst

Table II-B5.1 and Table II-D2. is set, and the I set in the admin page for display photo name = no. But the username still appears.

The display of the owner overrules hiding the photoname. This was and is the case, but as you state it is not logically. I will change that as desired even while it breaks backward compatibility. (The version number is 7.7… rather than 7.6… so other should accept this change; they can alternatively display the owner by w#owner in the description).
So: will be fixed.

Is there a way to change the album description as a batch.

• Enter your photodescription in Table IX-D5: New photo desc
• If you want new photos to have this decription automatically: Tick Table IX-D3: Apply Newphoto desc
• If you want all existing photos to have this description: Run Table VIII-B4.2: Apply New Photodesc (Click the Start! button and wait until complete.)
• If you want to apply this to the photot in a certain album, activate the Apply new photo desc button on the edit album information screen.

A 2nd thing was mentioned to me by a tester.

I will come back later on this.

I will inform you when the next intermediate version is available

About the rating stars:
In Table IV-E5: Star off opacity one can set the opacity of the ‘off’ stars, default 20%, to my opinion a clear difference with the ‘on’ ones.
Hoovering the stars will show the value of the star involved.

Maybe hoovering the ‘average’ stars should display the current average value?
Or should i just display the average value by a number rather than a row of stars?

Pls give me a little more info about your wishes in this matter.

Thank you, the change in the album works very well, so I can adjust description to the current state of the contest.
But I have to go to the tableIX-D5 every time.
Not a big problem, but could also edit the text in the message box?

About the stars:
Yes I have reduced the visibility of the stars. But if I want to give for example 7 points ( stars) to a photo, I have to recount the stars in my head. Surely a 5 star rating would be easier to see, but the German photo association works with 10 points and we went with that.

The display when hoovering always comes a little delayed that I feel then too slow.

A good alternative would be the numerical display. But the numbers would have to be larger. I have not found a change in size. As with the stars about 15-20 px. The inactive numbers a bit lighter and the selected value possibly bold green. That would be then clear.

Pls try https://downloads.www.ads-software.com/plugin/wp-photo-album-plus.7.7.01.004.zip
Set it to numerical display, and add this custom css:

.wppa-rating-numeric-box{
	font-size: 16px !important;
}
.wppa-rating-numeric:hover{
	font-size: 20px !important;
	opacity:1.0;
}
.wppa-rating-numeric{
	font-size: 16px !important;
	opacity:0.4;
}
.wppa-rating-numeric-mine{
	font-size: 20px !important;
	color:green;
	opacity:1.0;
}

PS: Numerical display does NOT work on lightbox.

Thank you very much,
that is very good!
So you can wonderfully give the rating safely!

>PS: Numerical display does NOT work on lightbox.
That was the reason why I first wanted to take the stars. But I prefer a clear and unambiguous rating. Is better so!

Currently the first contest is running. From Monday can then be evaluated for a week. I’m curious how the new tool is received.
After that comes the evaluation.

Can you filter and export the ratings for an album?

I had done that in the test via a database query, or is that also possible via the admin page? I saw there is only a total list. We do not calculate the average, but the total score.

In the review we look at the ratings of the individual photographers. Therefore, the list must contain all ratings per user and photos.

Thanks again for the great help and support! Also that the changes were implemented so promptly.

A phrase with us in Germany says: Ganz gro?es Kino > Great cinema. ??

Many greetings
Horst`

• This reply was modified 3 years, 9 months ago by haween.

Here i give you a few ideas about reporting the contest results. Please see it as ideas, and refine it to suit your needs. I should be able to implement such an evaluation display within a few days (hopefully before your first contes ends).
So far i will assume the following (pls correct me if i’m wrong):

– All photos of a certain contest are in one specific album, and all the photos in that album belong to the contest.
– All photographers upload to that album.

So i will run the statistics over that album.

Design 1:

Contest results <album name>

Photographer 	Photos 	Ratings Avg rating  	Total rating

John Doe 	12 	65	7.45 	 	484.25
Piet puk 	17 	44 	8.33 	 	366.52
Nomen Nescio 	 8 	21 	9.50 	 	199.50

Design 2:

Contest results <albumname>

Photographer 	Photo name 		Ratings Avg rating 	Total rating

John Doe 	House 			6 	8.5 		51
		Garden 			8 	7.5 		60
				
Piet Puk 	HPIM1240 		7 	8.0 		56
		HPIM1242 		5 	6.0 		30
				
Nomen Nescio 	20161026_073119.jpg 	5 	9.5 		47.5

Pls comment on the above

Yes, that’s pretty close to it.
In the current contest there is only 1 photo per user, of course there can be more.
Here is my example of how I am currently doing it:
I have downloaded the *.csv files and created a pivot table.

Bild#	Bewerter	Punkte	Fotoname	Owner	Ranking
280	Willi	1	2018_GH5-3332.jpg	Horst	 
	Test1	1	2018_GH5-3332.jpg	Horst	 
	Test2	1	2018_GH5-3332.jpg	Horst	 
	Test3	1	2018_GH5-3332.jpg	Horst	 
280 Ergebnis		4			          4
					 
281	Willi	3	2018_GH5-3373.jpg	Walter	 
	Test1	2	2018_GH5-3373.jpg	Walter	 
	Test2	2	2018_GH5-3373.jpg	Walter	 
	Test3	2	2018_GH5-3373.jpg	Walter	 
281 Ergebnis		9			        2
					 
285	Test1	3	20.jpg	Willi	 
	Test2	3	20.jpg	Willi	 
	Test3	3	20.jpg	Willi	 
285 Ergebnis		9			        2
					 
286	Test1	4	21.jpg	Martin	 
	Test2	4	21.jpg	Martin	 
	Test3	4	21.jpg	Martin	 
286 Ergebnis		12		         	1

• This reply was modified 3 years, 9 months ago by haween.

I think rating 1 with the overall result is very close.
The photo number (w#seqno) should be included in the overview, like Bild# in my table.

I would then create the detailed evaluation with a report, similar to the pivot table.

Yes, all photos are in an album and only these photos count.