Not for us

  • We still can’t find a place for Guts as we lovingly call it. I cant train clients to use it, I personally dont see anything that will help my work flow as a web dev and I really cant handle the HTML code and the messy messy way they setup the raw code views.

    I spend most of my time removing Gutenberg’s frankly horrid code from users’ sites so they can get back to an editor that is not confusing and very black-box. As a dev I just cant see an advantage, the HTML is so mangled as its created. Also the recent block changes to WooCommerce really messed up a lot of sites I manage.

    I have used a variety of builders and just hard code in the classic editor as for me this is the ceiling of what site owners want and also what they can handle. I think this is being built by folks who with all respect dont use WP in a real world way.

    This is a nice idea, but there are so many builders that work, these could be aquired easily and brought into core. This is not working as is, there has been years and years of this and its barely at alpha stages, it also is not faster or easy to use straight out of the box, it is missing features. When Guts is done I fear it will be either anemic for features or like JetPack just a total overload.

    Not a single new business inquiry related to Gutenberg either, other than folks who dont know what it is, but that their site looks defaced, after the builder messed something up.

    This project needs imo to be scrapped or moved out of core, how likely this is now I dont know. But it has no real goal, no real way to measure what it meant to do and where it is going.

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  • Curiously, why not use classic editor in Gutenberg blocks?

    The UI/UX is not great in this model either. We have tried a few combos but frankly it does nothing for us we cant already do without more supported/tested setups. I cant see what Gutenberg is for other than to be disruptive, it makes no business sense for me to invest in a thing I cant plan around or have any voice within. In a word it is risky, and I frankly have lost all faith in the direction of WP since Gutenberg was launched. No one is using the FSE themes so I think this is the real result, I cant see massive themes live Avada, Bridge etc changing, so why? All I get with Gutenberg is a risky plugin that could break my sites at any time, all without really being a page builder/layout front end of any real kind. The CSS etc it writes and the markup are just horrid. The JSON idea for theming, I just cant see the logic of any of it and I 100% can’t use it as is now.

    Moderator Felipe Santos

    (@foosantos)

    Hi there,

    I understand the frustration and can see where you’re coming from.

    Gutenberg is a relatively recent project comparing with some page builders and have improved a lot since the initial release.

    If you have specific UX examples, this could be a great opportunity to share them so we can improve from there.

    Was it not released as part of WP 5.0 in December 2018, I cant really call this new anymore. I left my review, I dont have time to bug fix for the devs sorry. Holistically imo there has been no product management in any real world way. I think you should hire folks to review this and pay them. But if this is still new and in beta/alpha why is it part of core? This is the Ouroboros I find my head in every time I open this frankly alien looking software. Anyways thanks best we dont overload this as I know its not meant for chats like this, its a review of a plugin.

    Moderator Felipe Santos

    (@foosantos)

    Hi there,

    Anyways thanks best we dont overload this as I know its not meant for chats like this, its a review of a plugin.

    One of the goals for the reviews is to get feedback for improvement.

    Was it not released as part of WP 5.0 in December 2018, I cant really call this new anymore.

    That really depends on each phase of the project you’re referring to. The whole project indeed started about 6 years ago, but it was initially only the editor for posts/pages. Things like the Site Editor experience are really new (which seems to be the main area of your feedback)?

    I think you should hire folks to review this and pay them.

    Gutenberg and WordPress are non-profit and open source projects maintained by the community (with support from the WordPress Foundation). There are folks sponsored by several companies to give back and contribute to it, but not hired by the foundation.

    That’s one of the reason that the project relies so much from feedback from the community. Feel free to share more actionable feedback on areas for improvement if something comes up, and I’m happy to bring it to folks working on the project.

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