Frames

Frames are not pretty.

I’m not looking for pretty… lol… This isn’t going to be a giant public site. For what I’m doing, frames are actually easier. I know it sounds strange because everyone out there hates frames all of a sudden these days (I remember when frames were the thing to do… EVERYONE had frames), but it’ll work for what I need.
When I’m done, I’ll post a quick screen shot, since it’s an intranet, not a public page, and you can all look, if you want.

You can create the functionality of frames using CSS…for what it’s worth.
Check this:
https://www.stunicholls.myby.co.uk/layouts/frame.html
https://www.webmasterworld.com/forum83/618.htm

You can create the functionality of frames using CSS…for what it’s worth.

Not all of it. Some of it, yes, but not all of it.

When you say *it* keeps changing etc what is it?

The template editing tools in WP are best used in emergencies (when you only have browser access ie when not on your machine.). If you edit in any editor and ftp you will find it easier. But the template editor is inevitably going to edit index.php. That is what it is for. Wish we could persuade you to abandon the frames. They are going to completely destroy your search engine rankings, break any kind of accessibility and generally be very uncool. Sorry.

u can practically edit any file existing in wordpress folder mate… as long as it is writable. u just need to know the name of the file.

Like I said, this is for an intranet, so search engine rankings and hit counts are not important. People aren’t going to be reading this outside the sheriff’s department. It’s for internal security bulletins. I’ll try the CSS route, but I’m not comfortable with it. Don’t be surprised if I mess it up and come back here in a panic. LOL.
Also, I don’t think I’m explaining the situation quite correctly. I’ll figure it out eventually.

Is this an intranet thing? Because since June 7 we have all been struggling for the want of a url here. Just my 2c.

Well yes it could be. Have you considered a fresh start with a working template?
The restyling would not take you too long. Top College Credit almost guaranteed if you use The Gemini template. No mess. No fuss. Absolutely no CSS positioning needed. Help yourself. Knock yourself out.

I did use a working template (from Stu Nichols) and added the menu afterwards. Plus, I don’t like the menu on the right side, so there would be positioning needed if I used that template… that’s the one that came with WordPress, isn’t it?
Besides, I’m trying to learn this stuff for real instead of copying and pasting open source code because I’d like to acutally create this stuff on my own instead of trying to dig up free templates for everything all the time. I’m tired of trying to edit other people’s work to fit what I want. Open source is nice, but I’d like to be able to take credit for my own work once in a while instead of always having to link back to someone else because I couldn’t do it myself, you know? I started doing webpages in Notepad back in ’96… and I did most of it on my own since there weren’t really that many people out there to copy, yet. I had to stop keeping updated on things because of issues with work and school and a lack of time to sit down and play with my site. So, I fell behind. All these big fancy programs that supposedly make things easier mixed together with new methods like CSS are actually intimidating to someone like me… I feel like an idiot because I can’t get it right by myself and have to copy someone else’s code.
Heck, it took me a month to get the page I’m working on now to this point.
Of course, I’m sure none of this really concerns anyone here… so I digress.
I’m supposing there’s a way to get that menu to work the same way in CSS, so I’ll attempt to do that and dump the JavaScript completely to see if that’s the problem.

I suspect your issue with the menu has to do with sizing and is related to a hover which causes a text-decoration:underline. As a test, see if setting the text-decoration to none stops the undesired behavior.

I think its the IE peekaboo bug..

Yep (this just added so as not to have a one word post ??

IE peekaboo bug? Sorry for sounding ignorant, but I have no idea what that is, what it does, and, therefore, have no idea how to work around it. ^^;;