Awful product

Can you give some specific examples of KISS failure or inferiority to Role Scoper?

Sure, I can some it up very quickly and very briefly. With Role Scoper, I install it, then it’s quite clear that I can go into Roles > Pages and easily give users additional permissions for pages.

In Press Permit, the process is totally alien, and after 20 or so minutes of faffing around, trying to work out how to use it, I decided to head back to Role Scoper.

So, like I said, it’s unnecessarily complicated when Role Scoper is so simple to use.

I’m glad you clarified that your rating is for the lack of a bulk user role assignment screen with direct user search/select like Role Scoper’s. I will take that into consideration and see if I can develop something which is similar but meets PP’s higher standards for UI brevity.

With Press Permit, you can bulk-assign permissions as follows:

• per-group or WP Role for multiple post types or content: Permissions > Groups > (WP Role or Group of your choice)
• per-user for multiple content: (link from Edit User screen or Roles column on Users listing)
• per-page for multiple users or groups: Reading Exceptions metabox on Edit Page screen
• per-term for multiple users or groups: Reading Exceptions metabox on Edit Category screen

This shortcoming has been resolved in Press Permit Core 2.1.22

You can assign permissions to one or more users using Permissions > Users > “Bulk-Add User Permissions”:

1. select desired users using the Ajax search/select UI
2. on the “Add Exceptions” tab, select:

• Post Type = “Page”
• Post Operation = “Read” (Pro users can set editing exceptions)
• Adjustment = “Also these” (default selection)
• Qualification = “selected:” (default selection, as opposed to a taxonomy)
• tick 1 or both checkboxes: “selected Pages”, “sub-Pages”
• Select Pages: [your choice from checklist or Ajax search/select]
• Statuses: can be specified for some adjustments; if you’re not sure, check “(all)”

• click “Add Role”
• Repeat for additional roles, then click “Save Roles”

Thanks Kevin, but it’s still massively more convoluted than the process in Role Scoper. Within Role Scoper, I literally have to pick a user, pick a page, pick a permission level for that user, on that page. Job done.

Plus, having to pay $55 in order to give users editing access is ridiculous, as that’s what the majority of Press Permit user are going to want to do – i.e. give subscriber users, edit access to specific pages for example. $10-20 yeah, that’s totally fine if the product gives a quick and simple way to achieve the aim. But $55 for a tool that re-invents, and over-complicates what a free tool can already do really isn’t desirable.

Thanks, but no thanks.

You are entitled to your opinion about cost/value and I may offer a scaled down Pro package in the future. But I don’t think that’s a valid criteria for a plugin rating here.

Regarding complexity, I count four extra clicks for a typical setting. But also a lot less scrolling, tidier admin menu and much cleaner handling of “lots of users” and “lots of pages” scenarios in the UI. That doesn’t add up to “massively more convoluted” in my mind.

Like you said, I’m entitled to my opinion, and that’s my personal opinion. I would have happily paid $20 for a pro version of Role Scoper. Not this though.

The review system is based on individuals personal opinion. So the 1 star I have given the product is completely valid, as I personally believe it isn’t a patch on your previous work.

I hate rolling bitch sessions – but – as a professional developer with many sites on several platforms under my belt, I assure you that my client saved far more than the cost of Permit Press in the overall site development.

Fair point – if you don’t need it it’s irresponsible to spend your client’s money on it.

Fair point – if it solves a need cost effectively, then buy it and use it.

Unfair point (IMO) – ‘I just don’t like the price’. Lacks analytical/objective reasoning.

At what point did I say “I don’t like the price”?

What I did say was that I don’t think it’s worth the money. Which, for me, it isn’t. I’m glad it fits the purpose for you, but for me it didn’t, and I find the original plugin to be a better product. So for me, 1 star.

How does this lack analytical or objective reasoning? At every point I have been objective, and compared the new product with the old. For my needs, the two don’t compare, and I would be happy to pay for a pro version of Role Scoper, as I mentioned before.

Anyway, I’m glad it working out for you. ??

My apologies – I intended the comment as a paraphrase, not a quote.