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How to Change “Increase Indent” Default?

HKP — Sat, 08 Apr 2023 02:02:41 +0000

Hi Folks,

Can you possibly let me have a line of php code to add to my child theme which will change the “Increase Indent” button output from padding-left: 40px; to padding-left: 30px;?

I find that the 40px leave too much white space on phones.

Regards and thanks!

Gutenberg editor? It’s the pits.

Eric Armstrong — Fri, 05 Feb 2021 21:23:25 +0000

I originally posted this in agreement with another users 1-star rating. I decided to re-post it as an independent review, so I could add myself to the one-star cotillion.
Since then, it has been expanding.

Summary: I have rarely seen anything so unusable. It is just impossible to work with lists or indentation. It’s like a box of chocolates: For any action where you indent or try to continue a previous list, there is just “no telling what you’re going to get”.

Moved again!: Editing here is a bit unwieldy, as well. So I moved the review to a Google Doc. That doc is expanding as I explore alternatives to WordPress: “Gutenberg” Editor: It’s the pits!

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March 2021 additions:

Never mind indented lists. You can’t even indent a normal paragraph! In the Classic editor, I indent paragraphs for a Note, or a Tip, and like that. “Quotation” is no good for that purpose. But that’s the only way to indent ANYTHING, in the block editor.
Worse, the editor never seems to know where I am! Click somewhere to edit. Scroll somewhere else. Click there to make a change. WHAM! You’re back where you WERE. ~~The ONLY way to change locations in Gutenberg is to use the arrow keys, or page-up/page-down.~~ Scratch that. Arrow keys and page keys don’t work to maintain your position, and scrolling is useless! So clicking in the damn editor is pretty much like a box of chocolates–you never know where you’re going to get to.
Taking everything into account, I have just about concluded that GOOGLE DOCs is a much better tool for blogging! This blog would then become a way to announce new Google Docs.

Why Google Docs, you ask?

Editing is a hell of a lot easier to edit and make changes.
If a post turns out to be long (as mine frequently do), you can download it as an ePub. Voila! Instant book.
A table of contents is AUTOMATIC, and it’s ALWAYS AVAILABLE, right there in the sidebar. (In my hosted site, I need a plug in for that, and it’s only at the top of the page. In the WordPress website, you can’t get one at all, since it requires a plugin.)
The built-in grammar suggestions are weird, at times. But overall they are much better than the ones you get in Word. And in addition to ignoring a suggestion, you send feedback that it’s wrong! So my expectation is that it will keep improving over time.
Interesting feature. I can apply a Heading format to a list item, and it remains a list item. That puts into the sidebar contents listing, while also preserving it’s in-line list-format. Cool way to use it in a ToDo list: Change priority items to H3. Use normal text for Non-priority items. It’s then easy to find and get to priority items, for items in a sequential list!
You can add an em-dash easily. In Gutenberg, you either have to switch to a classic block, or edit as HTML.
You can COPY things, for crying out loud. In Gutenberg, mixed-blocks mess you up. Highlighting LOOKS like you selected stuff, but then cut and copy operations silently fail.

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I’m guessing that Gutenberg’s blocks work great for media-heavy posts. Somebody must like it. For text-heavy posts and articles, Gutenberg is the pits. So “Classic Editor” it is. (I mean, there is NO WAY AT ALL to indent a paragraph in the block editor. Why?? What was the reason for creating a “replacement” editor that doesn’t include basic, everyday functionality provided by the old one??)

So, to indent text under a list item (or nested item), you have to add a “classic” block. But then you find out there is NO WAY TO CONTINUE NUMBERING from the previous item. I mean, I could even live with a manual, “set list number”. But that option doesn’t exist, either.

The sad, sad workaround is this:
1. For the next list item after indented text, add a “Classic Block”.
2. In the block, convert the paragraph to a list.
3. Hit the 3-dots icon and scroll down to “Edit as HTML”.
4. Add the value=”n” attribute to the li tag for the list item.
5. Add a SECOND li item-tag to the list. (explanation below)
6. Hit the 3-dots icon and scroll down to “Edit Visually” to add text.

NOTES:
A. The Enter key at the end of a SINGLE list item does not work to extend
the list. (If there is option that does, I have not found it.) However,
if there are MULTIPLE items in the list, then in the MIDDLE of the list,
the Enter key DOES THE RIGHT THING. (It may or may not do the right thing
at the end of the list. I haven’t had the heart to try it.)
To edit the list visually, then, start with at least two entries in the
HTML version of the list.
B. Once you have done that, the indent and outdent options for the
list items work rather well.

Next, SPACING OF LIST ITEMS is INDETERMINATE.
1. At the start, it was working pretty well. Double-newlines (shift+Enter) gave me consistent double spacing.
2. As long as your are EDITING your post, you keep the double spacing. But when you COME BACK to (after restarting your system or browser), double spacing between list items has DISAPPEARED.
3. Double-spacing between PARAGRPAHS in a multi-paragraph list item is still there, though. With single-spaced list items, the result is weird and hard to read. But since you CAN’T indent a paragraph under a list-item, you’re FORCED to put 2 newlines between “paragraphs” for readability. As a result, there is NO SOLUTION for the awkward spacing.
4. As with the standard block editor, there is no way to create an indented paragraph in a list item. (If you indent the list, and then make it a regular paragraph to remove the bullet or number, the “regular paragraph” immediately outdents itself entirely out of the list!
5. I could live with consistent double-spacing, or consistent single-spacing. But with Gutenberg, it is impossible to get any kind of consistency at all in a nested list!
6. The one possible workaround in the classic-block list is to add a non-breaking space (first item in the “special character” list) after the newline. That option doesn’t exist in the “normal” block editor, though, so if that workaround is effective, it means you can’t mix the two list styles. ALL LIST ITEMS MUST BE IN A SINGLE “CLASSIC” BLOCK.

CONCLUSION
It’s a pretty “baroque-n” picture, all told. Even the “workaround”, such as it is, requires a comfortable familiarity with HTML. Somewhere, I think there is a way to make the Classic Editor the default. Need to find that setting…

Oh no! It gets worse! You can make Classic Editor the default, ONLY IF YOU INSTALL THE PLUGIN. I maintain one self-hosted WordPress site. It’s a bear. So for this blog, I went with the online WordPress option. But the WORDPRESS WEBSITE DOES NOT ALLOW PLUGINS.

The Classic Editor plugin page says it is an “official” plugin. Why, then, is it not installed on the website, and available for use???

The bottom line in all this is that the WordPress Website HAS BECOME MUCH LESS USABLE for any kind of serious writing. (It’s a damn shame.)

It’s really bad Editor

taipekun — Thu, 04 Feb 2021 04:55:36 +0000

There are already better option which does better things in simple way :
Elementor
SeedProd
Beaver Builder

Its been two years old need to work hard to make Gutenberg a better block editor.

Textblock width

paulmersel — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 08:31:59 +0000

Hi!

I am trying to find a way to make (text)block narrower than the global site width.

So in the example page I want the text between the images to be narrower than 1000 px but still have it aligned left. Another way of explaining this is that I need indents left and right (same size).

Can anyone suggest a solution?

Thanks!
Paul

Mobile view

mccannstudio — Wed, 10 Jul 2019 11:57:47 +0000

The tabs are working great — I’m very happy with the plug-in, but I’m not sure how to tweak the appearance on the mobile view. The question is slightly indented, and then the answer is indented, creating a very narrow column. Can you please advise me on how to correct the appearance?

how to remove indents mobile mode

imran13 — Sun, 30 Dec 2018 14:27:10 +0000

how to remove indents mobile mode
how to set the size
https://prnt.sc/m1bj2d

Settings to preserve indents?

m4lvin — Thu, 18 Aug 2016 13:33:59 +0000

I would like to copy text width indents from LibreOffice and Word, then paste it into the WordPress TinyMCE and have these indents preserved.
(I mean that the whole paragraph is indented, not just he first line.)

I used this plugin to add the paste_retain_style_properties setting with the value margin-left text-indent padding-left margin padding. TinyMCE is loaded with this setting, but it did not change the behavior when pasting.

Which other settings of WordPress or TinyMCE do I have to adjust?

https://www.ads-software.com/plugins/advanced-tinymce-configuration/

CSS Formatting

mythusmage — Wed, 10 Jun 2015 02:56:56 +0000

I’ve noticed that in proper CSS formating you get:

blah-blah {
(indent) blah: blah;

And so on and so forth. Please add that.

https://www.ads-software.com/plugins/custom-css-whole-site-and-per-post/

Custom shortcode: how to create a shortcode to indent paragraph

tb2011 — Wed, 25 Jun 2014 14:01:27 +0000

Hi Vladimir,

I’m considering purchasing your add-on for creating custom shortcodes.

How would we go about creating a shortcode that would indent the first line of a paragraph. Basically I’m hoping the custom shortcode when clicked would generate: ??????

Let me know – thank you.

https://www.ads-software.com/plugins/shortcodes-ultimate/

Weird spacing/indents in post but not in html

jthompsongdpay — Fri, 31 Jan 2014 19:30:26 +0000

Hello, I am creating a post that has several points, each next to a small left-aligned image and with a break between each one. Although it looks fine in the editor and the html looks identical for each of these points on the back end, on the published page, some of them are indented. I cannot figure out why or how to change it. The “problem” points are the second, fourth, and fifth. Thanks for helping.

Here’s the published page: https://globaldatapayments.com/getting-started/merchant-information/merchant-accounts/

Here’s what’s in the text editor:

Retail Processing Whether you use a credit card machine or have a POS system for your retail store, GDpay can help you easily set up a merchant account to accept credit cards. The entire process takes only minutes and you'll be up and running in a matter of days.

Internet/Mail/Phone Order The fastest growing segment of credit card use today is in “card-not-present" transactions where a customer makes his or her purchase by mail order/telephone order (MOTO), by fax, or via the Internet instead of being physically present at the merchant's location. Whether your business is just starting out, or is expanding, we can quickly and easily set you up to take card not present transactions.

Restaurant/Fast Food GDpay can provide your restaurant with an array of terminal solutions for your specific needs. Whether you own a small diner, a fine dining establishment, or a specialty shop we offer processing features for the restaurant industry that will support all major credit and debit cards.

 Wireless/Mobile Processing Wireless credit card processing increases sales, saves time, and reduces operating expenses. Use your existing smart phone and turn it into a credit card processing machine without the high expense. Applications for iPhone?, Android?, Blackberry?, and others are available.

 Business-to-Business/Business-to-Government Today, more businesses are using Purchasing, Corporate, and Business cards to purchase goods and services in a fast paced and ever changing business environment. GDpay provides comprehensive business-to-business (B2B) and business-to-government (B2G) payment solutions. Our knowledge on Level 2 & 3 payment data and available Large Ticket benefits can reduce your company's processing costs.

 Petroleum GDpay offers comprehensive payment options to Petroleum, C -Stores, Gas Stations, Pay at the Pump, Pay in the Store, Fleet cards, and prepaid cards for merchants. Our processor is the premier payment processor for the petroleum industry. With GDpay, you can accept all major credit, debit, private label, EBT and T&E cards. We support many brands of gas cards including Wright Express, Voyager, Fleet One, FleetCor (Fuelman/Gascard), Visa Fleet, and Mastercard Fleet.

 Non-Profit Organizations GDpay specializes in setting up merchant accounts for non-profit organizations and charities. Your organization can now accept all major credit cards in person, over the phone and mail, through your website by "donate now" and also on a recurring basis. We help you set up a convenient, fast, and secure method to accept payments from your customers to keep your organization growing. Also, charitable organizations qualify for special reduced emerging market rates.

 Emerging Markets Visa and Mastercard have set up reduced interchange rates for certain industries. They classify these merchants as emerging markets. Some of the industries that are considered emerging markets are Utilities, Government, Cable companies, Schools, Insurance and Telecommunications. At GDpay we use the correct Merchant Category Code (MCC) when setting up your account, which will provide the correct emerging market rate for your business.

 Hotel/Lodging Every interaction with your guest helps you differentiate your property and location from the competition, so every payment transaction must be secure and fast for your customers. GDpay has teamed with lodging industry leaders with more than 20 years of experience. Our consultative approach increases day-to-day efficiency, maximizes cash flow, and promotes revenue growth.

 Supermarket/Grocery Special Interchange pricing is available from the card associations to qualified grocery and supermarket merchants. GDpay has an extensive network of partners with experience to provide merchants with the correct terminal type, which allows fast and reliable transactions. From Single to Multi-Lane locations GDpay has the expertise to help you and your business.

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