1.5.1 Track & Pingbacks

Yes, I know, but given the wide variety of success/failure, I was curious if it would work if someone else sent one. It seems that if it fails at Podz tester site, it may work from another. At least that what was how I understood Mac’s explanation. There seems to be no rhyme nro reason for success/failure. Someone correct me if I am misinterpreting this…

userX, I sent a pingback about 10 minutes ago? Did it arrive in any form? Perhaps being held for moderation?

mac – nope. I can send them, but can’t recieve them. I tried from Podz tester site, and now your’s never showed. I can send then though … at least to Podz site. It sounds like that could be pretty touch and go at different sites though … from what you have said. Is that correct?

Pretty much.

userx, I sent a TB to your test post. Did you get it?

No, moshu, I didn’t get it. Thanks for the effort though; it’s appreciated. I was really hoping this track/ping issue would be sorted out in this release. Doesn’t look too good though…

I can’t figure out why it workd on a few, but doesn’t for others. it is very confusing.

Trackbacks aren’t working for me either – tried macmanx’s method, but didn’t work.

Would the odd fact that my theme is pulling it’s comments.php from a different theme folder (deault) for some reason? In other words, I have to mod the default theme’s comments.php to get the desired results to show up in my own theme’s comments.php. Make sense? Could this be causing the trackback/ping issue. Also, why is my theme pulling from the defualt theme anyway? It’s been like this since 1.5., I just figured the hell with it if it’s working.

why is my theme pulling from the defualt theme anyway

Maybe youir theme doesn’t have its own comments.php template.

yes it does. I even modded it in vain and wondered why the changes weren’t showing. then I modded the default theme’s comments.php and viola…they appeared. Again, its been like that since I upgraded from 1.2

Wait … if the file comments.php is the template…I don’t know. Anyway, I just know I have to modify the comments.php in the default file to get the results to show up on my theme. I just wondered if this has anything to do with tracks and pings.

Terminology ??
index.php, comments.php, comments-popup.php, archive.php, single.php, page.php etc. are templates that together will be part of a theme.
Sorry, for hijacking the thread…

userx, does your comments_template(); call (in Main template for example) have something inside the brackets? like is_single() or something like that? I can’t remember what it was but a weirdness like that caused me to have the same problem (it was aaaages ago)

Minna – this is what I have in my active theme (not the defualt theme):

<?php comments_template( is_single() ); // Get wp-comments.php template ?>

For macmanx’s test I used a new 1.5.0 testblog, and the other 1.5.1 test blog I set up yesterday. They should both be accessible as soon as DNS propagates. Right now, both blogs have permalink structures that are the same, i.e., /%postname%/%category%/ . All test results have been recorded on the two sites with what I hope are descriptive entries. I was careful to save and publish the receiving post before the sending post in each respective test.

“1. Send a pingback from one post in v1.5.1 blog to another post in the same blog. Confirm that pingbacks do not work.”

Confirmed, pingbacks do not work. Ignoring that I already have determined it’s pingback receives that are the problem, then from macmanx’s test alone it is essentially unknown at this point whether the problem is with sending or receiving pingbacks.

“2. Set up a brand new v1.5.0 blog (hope you have a back up).”

Done, see URL above (I have a 1.5.0 zip download saved).

“3. Send a pingback from one post in v1.5.0 blog to another post in the same blog. Confirm that pingbacks do work.”

No confirmation, pingbacks don’t work This is where I wanted to bail on the test, but for purposes of mutual respect and cooperation, I will continue with the rest of macmanx’s test numbers.

“4. Send a pingback from one post in the v1.5.0 blog to another in the v1.5.1 blog. Confirm that pingbacks do work (they should by now).”

No confirmation, pingbacks don’t work.

“5. Send a pingback from one post in the v1.5.1 blog to another in the v1.5.0 blog. Confirm that pingbacks do work.”

No confirmation, pingbacks don’t work.

“6. Send a pingback from one post in v1.5.1 blog to another post in the same blog. Confirm that pingbacks do work.”

No confirmation, pingbacks still don’t work.

However, at least with the 1.5.1 blog, I should be able to make them work simply by disabling the permalink structure to none (Options > Permalinks > Structure = leave blank). I determined this last night with my other blog.

If I were to make that permalink change in both test blogs, the 1.5.1 blog should receive and send pingbacks. I believe this would also be true of the 1.5.0 blog if the test were performed with respect to trackbacks, but I don’t know whether pingbacks would work on it. I’ve already effected no customized permalinks with my main blog, which is now running 1.5.1, and have confirmed that trackbacks and pingbacks work properly, although not with macmanx’s specific, stepped procedure.

My thoughts are still as written above yesterday, namely, it’s something related to the use of customized permalinks creating the track- and ping-back issues.