3.6 custom menu setup TABS = bad idea

@klynam

I’m not a developer, I’m a user and designer and the only ones with voices in the WP core development are programmers.

I’m a designer.. There are lots of places where developers are working on these issues and actively seek outside opinions from non-programmers.

Since you’re a mod, I have to be careful with MY replies to avoid getting banned, or having my threads closed or removed entirely.

It’s hard to have a good productive discussion about the issues with you taking personal offense and proclaiming what a victim you are. You are claiming there are walls where there are none.
I’ve seem Esmi around quite a bit. Always very helpful. And patient. Oh my.. so very patient. As is evident in this thread.

At a broader level, this is simply good interface design protocol, but yes it does take more work – which of course is why it seldom happens as it really should.

Good interface design is what the developers were working on. I disagree with some of their changes.. but they had design parameters and goals in mind you have not taken the time to look up.

@lonchbox I agree on that point. The Links post type hasn’t been gone that long. And for those that added it back in via plugin.. What is it labeled as? I looked it over because I thought it WAS the links post type. ‘Custom Link’ would have been a better label. That did waste a bit of my time due to confusion.

If you’ve reviewed MY threads then you have seen how often I’ve offered assistance and solutions to WP users when no admin or developer would. I AM contributing member of this forum and the WP community, and that is precisely why I believe I have a voice in the discussion.

I never said I was a recipient of mod abuse on THESE forums, but it has happened often in the past (on other forums) and I’ve certainly seen it happen to others on these forums.

If enabling features (i.e. options) are “old school” now, then why are there ANY user options available in the WP system? Your response is defeated by the very logic it invokes.

I disagree that RETAINING functions and options for those with preferred and established workflows is inherently discriminatory, but unilaterally removing well established functions / options is inherently NOT discriminatory. This too has no logical support.

If people – such as me – are not free to voice their opinion (positive or negative) on an open forum about open source software, then that forum is inherently limited in it’s value to the members. Note I did not say it has NO value, I said it’s value is lessened.

I’m always surprised and saddened by “tow the line” responses from people who are themselves champions of “open source” solutions as absolutely necessary alternatives to the deaf-eared, unilateral decisions and implementations of “corporate” software solutions. And yet these same supporters staunchly defend unilateral moves by open source developers without question as clearly for the benefit of all those involved.

This entire thread started over my opinion of the new menu tab as unnecessary – and there is still not one single response as to why that change was an “improvement.” But I took the bait, and voiced additional frustrations I have with philosophical changes in the WP system. That was my mistake.

I’ve learned my lesson folks – this is not a forum for opinion, especially dissent or disagreement with the WP developers, administrators, or their supporters. No problem – it’s their sandbox not mine. I get it. This is a forum for support, and I will remember and honor that moving forward.

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