• Resolved sag982384

    (@simongiaccottonl)


    Hi, every 3 months I have to make the VAT declaration. The only report that is showing all the taxes is the Taxes report. But when I calculate the sales from this figures, it doesn’t match de revenue report. In my case, a difference of almost € 10.000.

    In the tax report the net/gross sales are not mentioned, so I have to calculate it myself using Excel. I make this calculation:

    21% vat € 15.000 –> 15.000/0,21*1,21 = € 86.428 sales incl VAT = 71.428 sales ex VAT. These figures don’t match the Revenue report. More important: my accountant gets an export of all orders. When they are all counted together, the figure is more like the Revenue report then the Tax report. The difference is too big to ignore.

    Anyone a suggestion? How to other people do their tax declaration?

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  • Hey there, @simongiaccottonl! Thanks for contacting us. I’m happy to help you.

    As I understand the report you see under Analytics > Taxes has values that do not match your total Revenue, correct?

    Can you please go to Analytics > Taxes and check the total taxes value, here:

    And then go to Analytics > Revenue and check the total taxes there:

    Do those values match?

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    Thread Starter sag982384

    (@simongiaccottonl)

    Hi, that’s correct; the values doesn’t match. The strange thing is that the Taxes almost match, but when I calculate the sales, it’s a big difference. But lets take this step by step. Here are the values of tax by both reports:
    Tax report: € 51.358
    Revenue report: € 51.357,73
    Total orders are different in each report:
    Tax report: 3886 orders
    Revenue report: 3928 orders

    My taxes look like this:
    6% BE: 373,94
    21% BE: 8.359,22
    9% NL: 3.182,17
    21% NL: 39.442,67

    If you calculate the sales from these tax figures, it looks like this (using the method I mentioned earlier):
    6% BE: 6.232,33
    21% BE: 39.805,81
    9% NL: 35.357,44
    21% NL: 187.822,24
    Total sales ex vat: € 269.217,83

    This is realy close to the gross sales of the Revenue report (270.994,65), but then the returns and the coupons are subtracted. We end up with 268.106,65.
    Then there is this ‘Shipping’ of 10.393,64. It looks like these costs are not includes in the tax figures. This might be an important clue. It doesn’t say if this figure is in or ex vat.

    Thread Starter sag982384

    (@simongiaccottonl)

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    Hi @simongiaccottonl,

    The “Shipping” value is typically exclusive of VAT. However, the tax applied to shipping can vary depending on your WooCommerce settings and the tax rules in your region. This could potentially be the source of the discrepancy.

    To further investigate this, could you please provide us with the following additional information:

    1. Your WooCommerce tax settings (WooCommerce > Settings > Tax).
    2. Whether or not you’re applying taxes to your shipping costs.
    3. If possible, a few examples of orders where the calculated tax does not match the tax in the reports.

    This information will help us to better understand the situation and provide a more accurate solution.

    Thank you for your cooperation and we look forward to resolving this issue for you.

    Thread Starter sag982384

    (@simongiaccottonl)

    Here are the screenshots of my settings.

    Thread Starter sag982384

    (@simongiaccottonl)

    You want an example, but I think we first have to look at this problem: when I ask the reports of last week, the Revenue report states that there where 80 orders while the taxes report counts only 76 orders.

    The next screenshot shows my analytics settings.

    Hi there @simongiaccottonl ??

    Thank you for reaching back, with further details on this.

    when I ask the reports of last week, the Revenue report states that there where 80 orders while the taxes report counts only 76 orders.

    With all orders having been placed within the two countries (BE & NL), or otherwise? Another reason might have occurred for the 4 orders to not be included in the tax report (like sales to other countries in the EU, or other tax-deducting reason).

    I’m curious what the numbers will be, when utilizing a tool like metorik.com for reporting.

    Thank you.

    Thread Starter sag982384

    (@simongiaccottonl)

    There are no other countries then BE & NL.
    I will do some research now by comparing the lists of order by the two different reports.

    • This reply was modified 10 months, 1 week ago by sag982384.
    Thread Starter sag982384

    (@simongiaccottonl)

    What I found till now:

    • it seems that fully refunded orders are not substracted from the net sales
    • partly refunded orders are counted as 2 orders. 1 for the initial order and 1 for the refunded part. The refunded part is incorporated in the sales, other then the fully refunded orders.
    • I use a plugin for removing VAT for BE clients when they apply a valid VAT nr. So for those clients, their VAT is not included in the Tax Report. That makes sense.
    • All the orders of 1 specific client are not included in sales. Still have to figure out why.
    anastas10s

    (@anastas10s)

    Keep ’em coming @simongiaccottonl, it appears progress is being made.

    it seems that fully refunded orders are not substracted from the net sales

    partly refunded orders are counted as 2 orders. 1 for the initial order and 1 for the refunded part. The refunded part is incorporated in the sales, other then the fully refunded orders.

    Based on the documentation, linked here, refunds appear as a negative number on the date that the return occurred (not the date the order was placed).

    What was the payment gateway in use for the refunded orders?

    I use a plugin for removing VAT for BE clients when they apply a valid VAT nr. So for those clients, their VAT is not included in the Tax Report. That makes sense.

    OK.

    All the orders of 1 specific client are not included in sales. Still have to figure out why.

    Special client status assigned, perhaps? Other features/benefit(s) when logged in the site? Created prior to a site migration?

    Just throwing ideas out there, in case if helps with figuring out.

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