Disappointing — follow up is worse than I had imagined

  • JS

    (@jsylvia90)


    6 years, 3 months ago

    Updated 5/4/2020

    Making a little progress. However I have to say that if you are going to make a drag and drop plugin, then it should actually drag and not be confined to a single screen. It makes editing very tricky. Still not a huge fan.

    Update… 9/14/2019

    I’ve been using the same theme Dynamik Gemesis for every site. Now on a new import I can’t use Gutenberg editor moving forward as it collapses and I cannot see the block at all. WHAT IS GOING ON??? This is supposed to be an ADVANCEMENT and we (the people who bought into and trusted the WordPress folks) are getting set back EVERY STEP OF the way. HEEEEEELLLLPPP!!!

    And I am fairly certain I won’t get a response to this update….

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    Days after launch, my new review is that Gutenberg is VERY CLUNKY! What is going on? How is this an improvement. My clients would not be able to handle this.

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    Now I have really been trying to use Gutenberg since the 5.0 update. All I can say is so far it is a disaster and it is setting me back time wise aka money.

    ZERO stars. VERY Disappointed. Plus what about backend assesibility for visually impaired. Adding images a nightmare. Just so shocked that this interface was launched in such a beta state. AWFUL.

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    This is an add on to my comments below the asterisks which I posted awhile ago. That said, I want to keep on top of developments and an open mind. So I have given Gutenberg another try and I am giving additional comments.

    As a web designer for 20 years I do have to say I like some of the blocks and concepts behind them with Gutenberg. However, the biggest reason I moved to the WordPress platform was that it offered my clients a reasonably easy to use and understand content management system.

    Most of my non-designer, not-so-computer-savvy found the current/old visual editor much like an email or Word Document interface…. and they got it. Even though I’m starting to “get” the Gutenberg interface (and liking some of the features), this is absolutely not the response I am going to receive from clients who want to manage their own content. In fact I have been able to give clients tutorials on the current visual editor over the phone in less than 30 minutes. NO WAY this is going to be possible with the new Gutenburg interface. I cannot even imagine trying to teach my clients how to update their content using this over complicated, finicky interface.

    WordPress is supposed to be a content management system first and formost. At least that is what all the promo for it stated when I first dived in (abandoning Dreamweaiver and Contribute) to satisfy my clients desire for easy and quick content management after their site was developed. Lets go back to easy content management for the common man as the goal please and leave designing to people who get it. It is the reason a lot of us designers bought into WordPress to begin with. You are totally defeating the purpose with Gutenberg.

    Sorry I really want to like is so much. And for me I can navigate it foibles, but my clients are going to be very, very unhappy.

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    Had to hit the update button many times before it would take. This was very annoying.

    However the most disappointing thing is the way it handled columns There needs to be an interface to set padding/margins, widths and also they should be responsive out of the box. It is just clunky to use. I hope that they fix this while still in beta.

    Once I saw how it handled columns I bailed on the beta plugin. I spent years perfecting my WordPress CSS and design skills and have an arsenal of go-to coding that will need uncountable hours of rework with this system (that doesn’t work well). If you are going to reinvent the wheel it needs to be a step forward. Many busy designers would agree; we don’t have time to fuss with learning a new tool that barely works. I’ve got work to do.

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  • Plugin Author Tammie Lister

    (@karmatosed)

    I am sorry you experienced issues updating. I would love to dig a little more into that for you, would you be able to create an issue here: https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/new? If not, I can for you if you can tell me a little more information.

    Columns and iterations around them are very much planned. You make a good point and one that moving into phase 2 of Customization needs to happen to really allow layouts to come into play. There is an issue for responsive layout in Columns: https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/6048#issuecomment-405999211.

    Thread Starter JS

    (@jsylvia90)

    I have given Gutenberg another shot and columns responsiveness is improving. I was even able to code custom css for vertical alignment. So things are getting better. However, I typically use the same set of plugins and the Dynamik for Genesis theme, which helps me isolate compatibility issues etc. I also mainly use the same server configuration. I am not sure if it is a fluke, but the Gutenberg does seem to have slowed the server response time. This may only be my perception, but it is worth mentioning.

    My other comment is that I am quite astute at WordPress (and HTML/CSS) and one of the reasons I moved to it was for non-designers to be able to do their own content management. I have a feeling that this new interface will be too complex in comparison to the traditional visual editor. The old visual editor worked much like an email interface and my clients liked that. I think this new system will be overwhelming for them. This is a big concern. If it is not easier for my clients to do content management it defeats the purpose.

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