External sites Loading in wordpress sites / content from Google

Hey there,

sorry - but this is pretty important: we cannot afford and conflict with the GDPR or DSGVO - i allways get the errors of "fetching" content form other pages - i.e. from Google:

see the theme that runs on the page: https://jobify-demos.astoundify.com/classic/

and here we have a google-map-page:
https://jobify-demos.astoundify.com/classic/find-a-job/

well i have issues - i cannot get rid of these errors that are mentioned in the threadstart:
the folks form Astoundify tell us the following:

Hope you are doing fine and thanks for reaching out. In relation to your query here, the external domains you indicated are used to fetch the data for maps in order for them to work in your job listing page. Please note that each file is included to serve a specific purpose, in case you are not using the maps then it would make sense to remove them but it is not recommended.
Looking forward to helping you.
Kind Regards., Brian From Astoundify Support.

but believe me: it does not work i allways get the

content of the external Domains see :

fetch: https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/js?v=3&libraries=geometry%2Cplaces&language=en&ver=6.1.1
image: https://maps.gstatic.com/intl/en_us/mapfiles/iw_close.gif
stylesheet: https://fonts.googleapis.com/css2?family=Montserrat:ital,wght@0,100;0,200;0,300;0,400;0,500;0,600;0,700;0,800;0,900;1,100;1,200;1,300;1,400;1,500;1,60…
script: https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/js?v=3&libraries=geometry%2Cplaces&language=en&ver=6.1.1
xhr: https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/mapsjs/gen_204?csp_test=true

the ideas that are discussed here - they do not work at all: https://kb.astoundify.com/article/how-to-remove-maps-in-jobify-results-page/

Geladene CSS Dateien von Google die Fonts von Google nachladen:
https://fonts.googleapis.com/css2?family=Montserrat:ital,wght@0,100;0,200;0,300;0,400;0,500;0,600;0,700;0,800;0,900;1,100;1,200;1,300;1,400;1,500;1,600;1,700;1,800;1,900&display=swap

Fonts:
see the characters and the fonts: Montserrat

no Cookies found …

note: we are discussing all the things here: https://www.ads-software.com/support/topic/external-sites-loading-in-wordpress-sites-content-from-google/#post-16343289

see the externeral p1ages (Domains of my ))
Einbindungen;
fetch: https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/js?v=3&libraries=geometry%2Cplaces&language=en&ver=6.1.1
image: https://maps.gstatic.com/intl/en_us/mapfiles/iw_close.gif
stylesheet: https://fonts.googleapis.com/css2?family=Montserrat:ital,wght@0,100;0,200;0,300;0,400;0,500;0,600;0,700;0,800;0,900;1,100;1,200;1,300;1,400;1,500;1,60…
script: https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/js?v=3&libraries=geometry%2Cplaces&language=en&ver=6.1.1
xhr: https://maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/mapsjs/gen_204?csp_test=true

note: i get this errory every time – only if switch off the wp-jobmaanger then i try to dive into all tat!

Hi @lebrochet,

Just to confirm I understand the issue, you are wanting to prevent your site from loading those resources from other pages, the maps, fonts, image, stylesheet, script, and XHR resources, correct?

Looking over all the details you have provided, those resources are being loaded in because they are needed for the theme you are running to display the maps. You would need to work with the support team for Jobify if you are wanting to remove them, and if following the steps on their support page to disable maps isn’t working correctly. Since you have already spoken with them, I would also suggest looking at other themes for your site that may work better for you with your privacy concerns.

As far as if this is outside of GDPR or DSGVO compliance, we aren’t able to give specific advice about your particular site, since we are not your attorney. I can say that WP Job Manager itself doesn’t rely on these files your site is pulling in, they are only required by your theme, so we would not be able to provide support in disabling those from loading in.

If you have any other questions, give us a shout!

hello dear @michaelnutt

Many thanks for the reply.

first of all: many thanks for the continued support and for all the great help that you offer. That said - i am pretty sure that wp-jobmanager is safe - it is not causing any issues - WP Job Manager itself doesn’t rely on these files my site is pulling in.
To clarify where the issues are rooted and where to rely on - i have posted this topic here. so many thanks for the discussion and for sharing your insights.
I am thankful that we can discuss this here - in order to clarify where the issues are rooted and that wp-jobmanager itself does not cause any of the issues. Therefore i will speak to the developer of Jobify - the astoundify-team. on a sidenote: its hard to get support from there. Its pretty hard.

i try (and i have tried so far) to get the things fixed but it is pretty hard to do so - the support of Astoundify is sometimes good - and then again very very poor. I never have seen such terrible service among a WordPress-developer-team. even worse: I never ever have heard of such terrrible and bad support. I know no plugin or theme-developer who delivers such terrible and ugly support - like the folks from Astoundify do…!`

to clarify whats going on here: i have issues with

a. cookies
b. sites that are pulled in - i.e. the google-api sites etc. etx.
c. fonts (i e. google fonts)

btw: The knowledge-base - does not help:
a. https://kb.astoundify.com/article/416-jobs-map-results/
terrific - this does not help at all;
b. the following ressource also does not help too: How to ensure your Jobify Theme is GDPR Compliant With Google Fonts
https://kb.astoundify.com/article/how-to-ensure-your-jobify-theme-is-gdpr-compliant-with-google-fonts/

i took the chance to test some pages - and to see what they do: let us take some examples:

a. https://jobmanagergeolocation.com/jobify-theme-demo/

i test it with this test-tool: https://www.ccm19.de/cookie-scanner/

https://www.ccm19.de/cookie-scanner/?scanurl=https%3A%2F%2Fjobmanagergeolocation.com%2Fjobify-theme-demo%2F&scanstart=Scan+starten&csrf_token=92b1eb9197e496789ed9099e

integration of external Domains:
Problematic integration (84 URLs)
probably not problematic (2 URLs)

i did some more tests:
to do that i tried to find out which pages uses jobify: i found some of them with the page builtwith.com: see https://trends.builtwith.com/framework/Jobify
I took a list of 3,583 websites using Jobify which includes location information, hosting data, contact details, 2,997 currently live websites and an additional 2,637 domains that redirect to sites in this list. 586 sites that used this technology previously and 133 websites in Germany currently using Jobify.

see some more examples:

b. jobs.gesundheitsberufe.de
see https://www.ccm19.de/google-fonts-checker/?scanurl=+%09jobs.gesundheitsberufe.de&googlefontchecker=check&scanstart=Check+starten&csrf_token=f0a93a23808a859e55eb6bc6

1 Google Font file from at least 1 different fonts. see the Details!
Google Sans
more critical results:
details of the Checks.
sets 12 Cookies - whereas more than 10 cookies are not technical necessaray: 11
-fetches data from 20 Domains
-fetches data from 20 Domains from third countries.

c. flexrecruitment.scc.com
several Google Font file from at least 1 different fonts. see the Details!
Varela Round
Montserrat
more crtitical results:
-fetches data from 6 Domains
-fetches data from 6 Domains from third countries.

d. jobs.joe.org
several Google Font file from at least 4 different fonts. see the Details!
Noto Sans
Varela Round
Montserrat
more crtitical results:
-fetches data from 10 Domains
-fetches data from 10 Domains from third countries.

e. jobs.strategichrinc.com
several Google Font file from at least 2 different fonts. see the Details!
Varela Round
Montserrat
sets 3 Cookies whereas the following cookies are not necessaray: 3
more crtitical results:
-fetches data from 8 Domains
-fetches data from 8 Domains from third countries.

f. talent.vilcap.com
several Google Font file from at least 2 different fonts. see the Details!
Varela Round
Montserrat
more crtitical results:
-fetches data from 8 Domains
-fetches data from 8 Domains from third countries


i wanted to give a overview on the issues - note these are live sites - that are running all over the planet. 
Well  try (and i have tried so far) to get the things fixed but it is pretty hard to do so


Thank you for the open discussion.  I think that its pretty sure that the wp-jobmanager is safe and a great product.
Therefore - i would say - we now can close the thread - but for the documentation purposes its great to  have this threads.  

As we see that many many sites have the issues .  so we hope that the folks out there get aware whats going on. 
so many thanks for the discussion and for sharing your insights.

have a great day. 
lebrochet

Hi @lebrochet,

Thanks for your thorough discussion on this! It does look like you’ve done a lot of research on this, and it is good for that to be listed here in case someone is looking for similar information in the future.

Since you are confirming that you don’t have any other questions on WP Job Manager at this point, I’ll go ahead and mark this thread as resolved.

If you have any other questions later, give us a shout!

many thanks for the quick reply

yes we can close the thread – many many thanks for all you do.
i am overwhelmed – i like this support so much

have a great day

hello again,

good news: i contacted the developer and they replied – that they are currently working on a solution:

the developer from astoundify.com sent me a mail:

cit: We will be soon adding an option to remove Google Maps usage completely. For Google Fonts, we have already provided an option to download the fonts locally, see https://kb.astoundify.com/article/how-to-ensure-your-jobify-theme-is-gdpr-compliant-with-google-fonts/ on how to use it. Make sure you are using the latest version.

well: thats sounds great and very promising – and i hope that this will solve the issues. That sounds great and would be a awesome.

lets hope that. i will keep you up to date – i will repost all the new things.

regards, lebrochet