Feedback :-)

Also, would be nice for your plugin to have in mind styling adjustments when different layout is used, for example sidebar-content-sidebar ??

Thanks for the feedback, Karmarz. Some responses below:

option to still use normal sidebar (other widgets) in addition to this
You can, actually. If you look at the settings for the plugin, this should be easy to do.

styling issue when pages tree goes deeper than 2 levels – I mean for a child page of a child page of parent page
The issue with this is that different users would have different uses for that next level. Do we display all of them in a tree, or do we use the current page as the parent?

However, in the settings, you can disable all styling then style this yourself however you’d like!

Also, would be nice for your plugin to have in mind styling adjustments when different layout is used, for example sidebar-content-sidebar ??
In the settings, you can disable all styling. This plugin’s stylings have been tested on the sidebar-content and content-sidebar layouts, as those are the two most widely used. There are a lot more use cases when we add a second sidebar into the mix, so I figured that for those uses, users could style it however they’d like by just disabling the build-in styles.

If you would like to submit styles for this plugin, I’d consider them as options as well.

Best of luck, and if you’d like to send a link, I’d love to see if there are any other specific issues you’re running into that could be fixed directly!

Hmmmm… ??

First of all I do love the idea, but I think usability is quite small in current stage.

But anyway – which one of these options would allow me to use normal sidebar contents together with your plugin’s output?

– Disable subpage sidebar creation? This setting disables the plugin.

Styling & Behavior

– Disable the default styles from this plugin?

– Disable menu scrolling? If scrolling is enabled, the primary menu is automatically removed.

– Remove the primary menu?

also last option seems to do exactly nothing ??

“First of all I do love the idea, but I think usability is quite small in current stage.”
The usability does exactly what the plugin description says. It generates, automatically, a sidebar comprised of the page’s relatives, and displays it on the page. It also adds custom styling to the sidebar, and adds javascript to detect where we are on the page and add a fixed class if we’re scrolling. If any of that is what you’re wanting, then I think this will save you quite a bit of time trying to set up this functionality yourself. If you’re wanting something else, then no, this doesn’t offer much functionality other than the things it does do.

If you’re looking for this sort of list as a widget, then I’d highly recommend Bill Erickson’s Subpages Widget, which sounds like it might do the things you’re wanting as well.

This plugin doesn’t add a widget because on most of my sites, I’d prefer to install the plugin, then be done (if you’re doing it in a widget, you have to pick which pages that widget appears on). I may add a widget implementation in a future version of the plugin, but I haven’t felt the need thus far. Here’s an example of a site using this plugin which has everything set up correctly, using the default styles (with some colors added by the theme), and removing the primary sidebar: https://parentingjourney.org/parents/.

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To answer your questions…

Disable subpage sidebar creation? This setting disables the plugin.
This is self-explanatory. This disables the entire plugin

Styling & Behavior

– Disable the default styles from this plugin?
If you check this box, then it will disable the styles added by the plugin, leaving you with a simple unstyled unordered list

– Disable menu scrolling? If scrolling is enabled, the primary menu is automatically removed.
If you check this box to disable menu scrolling, then the primary widget area will display below it, unless….

– Remove the primary menu?
This setting doesn’t do anything unless the option immediately above is checked. There are some people who don’t want the subpage sidebar to scroll, but who also don’t want the primary menu to appear below it. This option is for those people.

This setting doesn’t do anything unless the option immediately above is checked. There are some people who don’t want the subpage sidebar to scroll, but who also don’t want the primary menu to appear below it. This option is for those people.

Still don’t see this option to make any difference no matter what combination of ticks is off or on. What exactly means Primary Menu? What Menu? Where?

The primary sidebar (sorry, I said “menu” but meant “sidebar”) is the sidebar automatically added by every Genesis theme. If you don’t have any widgets added in your primary sidebar, then it won’t appear to do anything. Here’s a screenshot of the Primary Sidebar (under Appearance > Widgets).

I should ask – are you running a Genesis theme? If you aren’t, this plugin won’t be functional. It’s built for Genesis sites only.

What is the end goal here? What’s the behavior you’d like to be seeing? (and please send a link to your site).

I can help you work toward that end goal, but don’t get carried away on knowing exactly how it works.

Yea, Genesis all the way! Reaching for it whenever I can for projects.

Thanks for offer but I wont be needing your plugins’ functionality for current project, was just looking around periodically for anything I didn’t spot yet that could be useful.

And ye, your plugin will be one of those that I will be visiting back most likely for some future project.

Thanks again and all the best!

Sounds good.

Do take a look at Bill Erickson’s plugin. It does a similar thing to what this one does, but trades quickness of setup (for many projects, I just install this plugin, and that’s it) for flexibility (his is much more flexible than mine, but you can add it in more specific places).

Marking this ticket resolved.

Thanks.