• Resolved stef83

    (@stef83)


    auf einigen Seiten kommt eine Referenz mehrmals auf der gleichen Seite vor.
    Gibt es eine M?glichkeit, die Gleiche Zahl als Referent/Tooltip auf einer Seite (URL) zu verwenden, so dass auch die Fu?note nur einmal vorkommt.
    Aktuell würde die gleiche Fu?note eine andere Nummer bekommen und mehrmals die Referent im unteren Bereich erscheinen.

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  • Plugin Contributor pewgeuges

    (@pewgeuges)

    Hello,

    Sorry for the late reply. The problem with multiple collapsed footnotes is that each instance is expected to link back to the respective referrer, unlike in print where the reader manages on their own jumping back and forth between referrers and footnotes. On the web, bijective links are expected.

    To avoid screwing things up, best is to add a unique detail to each note, such as a page number. The ibid. notation is also a great way to collapse footnotes while keeping bijectivity.

    As you note, the Footnotes plugin comes with a unique algorithm that requires copy-pasting the exact same note and, if collapsing is active, these will be unified while keeping referrer numbering continuous. That makes clicking the right backlink easy. WikiMedia collapses numbers altogether and enumerates backlinks in small letters while the referrers lack those letters so there is no way of being sure which small letter to click. Just a matter of considering that if even WikiMedia didn’t come up with a solution, how would we.

    That said, what are your expectations? Currently you are asking for a way to collapse both numbers and footnotes so that identical footnotes occur only once in the list (which they currently can, see above) and have only one number (which they currently don’t). That would be fine for all identical referrers to link down to a specific footnote. Does your spec include a way of linking back up to a specific referrer?

    • This reply was modified 3 years, 8 months ago by pewgeuges.
    Plugin Contributor pewgeuges

    (@pewgeuges)

    Edit:
    Please read MediaWiki instead of “WikiMedia”.
    Sorry for the misnomer, mainly due to hasty responding after recovering internet access disrupted by a thunderstorm 59?hours earlier.

    About the topic, I still think that a working solution—i.e. with a bijective link system and without clickable elements too close together (referring to the Google Search Console warning)—would require rewriting the plugin, and even then I’m not sure if the result will satisfy all involved parties.

    For the time being, I strongly encourage all users who are uncomfortable with the plugin’s current behavior, to make footnotes unique by providing at least the number of the page that is referred to when repeatedly citing the same source.

    As the benefit of collapsing footnotes is to avoid multiple identical full citations, I’d recommend using academic shorthand: An identifier derived from the authors’ names (or the lead author’s name) and the publication year is appended in parentheses after the citation when a source is cited first. The other footnotes would then start with this identifier and end with the number or range of the page(s).

    Hope that helps. Else feel free to design another solution and submit it in response to this topic, for the plugin’s current developers to implement it.

    • This reply was modified 3 years, 7 months ago by pewgeuges.
    • This reply was modified 3 years, 7 months ago by pewgeuges.
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