Gutenberg needs to be an option only

You can use both editors right now with the Disable Gutenberg plugin.

@ogalinski it should be an option still. My site already use too many plugins.

@x25fitness

Time to trim ’em down…

@ogalinski – I don’t think we should have to trim down useful plugins just so WordPress can have it’s Gutenberg and eat us too. Like @x25fitness, I have added plugins that are important to the function of my site and for my readers and have tried to keep them minimal. Now I feel forced to add more so that I can just continue to function. It’s a bummer.

Then by all means don’t – but, like it or not, WordPress 5…that’s the way it is now. Software isn’t static, is moving all the time; I started one of my blogs around 2007 – that’s WordPress 2.0.x if I’m not mistaken – that means that I have used and discarded tons of themes, plugins, workflows, etc., time and time again, because product features change to get better. We have to adapt and evolve. Right now I love the way my site is configured…but I know it won’t last forever. Further on up the road I’ll have to adapt again, and again, and again.

Please allow users to switch between their editing UI of choice either with or without a plugin.

The Classic Editor plugin (& several alternatives) allows you to do that on a per site/post/page/user/.. basis.

please do not remove or deprecate Tiny MCE

Tiny MCE provides the functionality of the Classic Block within the Block/Gutenberg Editor & thus will remain supported & maintained.

Dear Moderator, my comment was aggressive?
What about the comment above with “like it or not, WordPress 5…that’s the way it is now.” coming from someone who keeps answering negative reviews?

Your attitude is awful towards millions of people using WordPress.
You haven’t even realized how much economical damage you have caused.
I am done with WordPress. Not that you care. Which is exactly the issue.
You don’t care how your developing impacts millions of sites, because you do not answer to anyone.

Now, delete this as well.

@zaffy

What about the comment above with “like it or not, WordPress 5…that’s the way it is now.” coming from someone who keeps answering negative reviews?

I didn’t mean to sound offensive, and still believe it is *not*. On the quote itself, it’s a fact.

are you in the Gutenberg development team?
You definitely have the time to answer negative reviews like if this is personal to you.

No, I’m not on the Gutenberg, or Automattic or anyone’s team. I answer negative reviews when 1) I believe they are rude, because it makes me mad, 2) when I believe the OP doesn’t know what he/she is talking about and maybe I can educate them about Gutenberg and 3) because I care about WordPress. Finally, I’m not doing anything wrong: 99% of the time I play by the rules.

And I’ll keep answering bad reviews until someone with the proper authority tells me to stop.

But a core of people decided all this millions should follow “progress” even if that means forcing extra and unplanned costs on them.

It was not unplanned; it was announced since february 2017 if I’m not mistaken, and yes, it may have a bit of a rushed deployment, and some of it could have been handled better; but there was time given to everybody to prepare.

WordPress became popular cause it was easy and cheap.

Not cheap, but free. Not the same.

What should I stay “faithful” to a platform that considers me completely expendable?

Do you know that the oldest supported version right now is 3.7? do you know that you can stay at 4.9.x and WITH support? if anything, the WordPress team provided you with a platform that didn’t change for 15 years!!! are you completely aware of that?

This is what I’m talking about: 15 years and people know so little of the tool that in most cases, allows them to make a living. I can not just sit down and watch this things happen, and do nothing.

I see that this review is spiraling, and as such I am closing it.

I appreciate that someone is helping users by answering reviews so they’re not left to hang for eternity (and I do let people know if they’re out of line), so thank you Orlando! I’m sorry to hear they make you unhappy, and I appreciate you trying to help educate them.

I do wonder if we should perhaps start treating Gutenberg reviews and support posts like we would anything else on www.ads-software.com after the new years… I’ll bring that up with the rest of the team over new years. (If anyone is interested in getting involved, https://make.www.ads-software.com is a great place to start out, it lists our teams and how to join them!)