HUGE error for MY Site when Upgrading to 6.3

just backup your database and try it, you can always revert then……

Hello. I didn’t answer you before because I was doing different tests, related to what you suggested.

And here are the “results”:

– I was NEVER able to modify my database, replacing my <p style=”padding-top: 18px;”> </p> with your <!– wp:spacer –> <div style=”height:18px” aria -hidden=”true” class=”wp-block-spacer”></div> <!– /wp:spacer –> because…

1) The plugin you recommended (Better Search Replace) DOES NOT work!

I explain. As you can see, on its page, it was tested up to WP version 6.1.3.

That is to say that it has not been updated for 7 months!

I don’t know if it has to do with it or not. But I still tried it and there was NO case (*)

It does NOT detect ANY of my <p style=”padding-top: 18px;”> </p> Ergo.

It also can’t replace them with the tag you suggest.

2) Anyway, I tried a few more (Better Find and Replace, Search & Replace, Etc.)

And in EVERY case, it told me that…”NO rows were found”… “Search pattern not found”… Or something more or less similar.

3) I kept searching and came across this SQL statement…

update wp_posts set post_content = replace(post_content, ‘<p style=”padding-top: 18px;”> </p>’, ‘<!– wp:spacer –> <div style=”height:18px” aria -hidden=”true” class=”wp-block-spacer”></div> <!– /wp:spacer –>’);

But with this I BARELY managed to replace 36 rows!, heh (*)

(*) I already told you that ONLY one article has +100.

Even after I (unfortunately) did all that “walking”, I came across a tutorial explaining how I could have made these changes from within phpadmin itself (*)

(*) Going to wp_options/Find/Find and Replace table ˉ\_(ツ)_/ˉ

But I tried it and got the same results (NOTHING).

In summary:

My site was left with ONLY 36 of your tags (<!– wp:spacer –> <div style=”height:18px” aria-hidden=”true” class=”wp-block-spacer”></div> <!– /wp:spacer –>) buuut…

With hundreds (or thousands) of my <p style=”padding-top: 18px;”> </p>! \_(-_-)_/

Lastly, and as if this were not enough…

When I went to my editor to see if, at least, nothing had been “broken”, I found this;

https://ibb.co/L97vhpn

That it is the same problem that I had already mentioned to you and that, in case you don’t see it (in Spanish) it says:

…”This block contains unexpected or invalid content”…

And on the blue button it says…

 …”Block recovery attempt”…

And (as I already said) when you press it, it does NOTHING (*)…

(*) It is as if it did NOT work.

So, as you can see, this code snippet…

https://ibb.co/C17sQ2f

It brought me more PROBLEMS than solutions, heh.

Conclusion:

I am going to restore ALL my site and I will NOT update my WordPress to the latest version (6.3) because, as I have been repeating, the problem that gave rise to this ticket is NOT being solved.

This, of course (as I already mentioned), is going to cause me security problems and, therefore, possible conflicts with my hosting. But hey (*)

(*) What I am sure of is that I am NOT going to rewrite my ENTIRE site (+120 thousand words) due to a conflict that – after +3 years – is being generated by WordPress itself.

Any other idea?

I await your comments.

Thank you.

P.d: Isn’t it time to pass this mess on and request the intervention of WordPress?

I’m asking this not only because of me (who also, heh) but because of the large number of people I see (even in this very forum) who are having similar problems. (*)

(*) For example

Someone saying that this latest update (6.3) ruined +15k posts for him! (≧︿≦)

As you can see, there are many people who have been using WordPress for many years and, if for some reason, at some point, they found it necessary to add some custom code to their content, it will be for something, don’t you think?

For example, in my case (as I explained), when I double enter (2 line breaks) it is because I learned that, since my texts are so long, if I don’t give my readers a “break” between paragraphs, for usually “get tired” ˉ\(°_o)/ˉ (*)

(*) Especially in this age that some call “the era of immediacy”, heh.

So if for WordPress this was a “problem”, because instead of adding a…

<p></p> (empty)

I didn’t add a…

<p>whatever-you-think-represents-a-space-between-paragraphs</p> (or something like that).

Anyway.

I reiterate what I said in my previous speech:

In MY opinion, WP should…

Remove the instruction(s) they gave WP 6.3 to remove code like mine. Spot.

There’s one important piece of information missing in this discussion, although it might not be what you want to hear…

A <p> tag is used for paragraphs of text. Ths distance between paragraphs is determined by CSS.
When you want to use a line break to create extra space, you should have used <br> which can be entered in WordPress and programs like Microsoft Word by using Shift+Enter.

Empty paragraphs have no meaning and it appears that they are ignored in WP 6.3. I’m not sure if that was intended or not, but if it breaks your content, it’s because your content always has had errors. It looked fine, but it actually is not. An update like this reveals the errors, but did not create them.

WordPress 6.3 is not a security update, so it’s no problem to stay on 6.2.x for a while longer, as it will also receive security updates if necessary (6.2.3, 6.2.4 etc.). So there’s no need for panic regarding security or even legal issues.

Regarding the search/replace actions: every row is one post, so if it says it has changed 36 rows, it can be 36 posts (or pages) with hundreds or thousands of replacements. So maybe that worked better than you think.

I’m sorry that this means you still have to fix your content and instead of spacers you could maybe use a Quote block or create a custom block to give more space to certain texts.

The great benefit of keeping your content and your styling separate, is that you can change the appearance of all your content by changing one single style. Like increasing the space or changing a color or something. When you put these together, you will always have to change it in all those places. That’s just why the use of correct HTML and CSS is so important.

I wish you all the best with this challenge!

Hello. First of all, thank you for your intervention (to all).

Having said that.

I think I found the source of the problem and a possible solution.

And why haven’t I implemented it yet? Simple…

Because I’m NOT sure if it suits me and also I DON’T know how to implement it.

But let’s go by part (“Jack the Ripper said”, heh:)

1) The origin of the problem.

I just found out (after +3 years, heh:) that…

…”If you want to add many adjacent spaces within your document, it will not be enough to press the spacer multiple times. On the contrary, no matter how many spaces you enter, the system will always reduce it to one”…

And…

…”This behavior is known as whitespace collapse, and is that browsers will display contiguous spaces in your HTML code as one and, in turn, ignore spaces that are before and after elements or outside of them”…

Based on the above…

The “solution” was then, to replace said “html space”…

<p></p>

For “something” like what I created. That is to say this…

<p style=”padding-top: 18px;”> </p>

With the “results” already known to all.

But, as far as I could find out (just now, heh:)…

…”The easiest way to add a space in HTML (besides, of course, the space key) is with the hard space command that you can add to your text with the &nbsp; or  …

With this simple technique, the browser will not break your spaces and you will be able to make the spaces that you have placed between elements and words on your page visible in your final text”…

In other words. To “fix” this mess…

To all…

<p></p>

Which I replaced with this…

<p style=”padding-top: 18px;”> </p>

Now I should replace it with this other one…

<p>&nbsp;<p/>

Besides.

From now on and, following the thread of what was stated by José Klever…

Every time I want to insert a space between 2 paragraphs, instead of hitting double enter and (again:) I end up like this again…

<p> </p>

<p>Paragraph I: pain sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Curabitur scelerisque sapien in egestas faucibus. Phasellus sodales augue eu tortor dapibus suscipit quis id enim.</p>

<p> </p>

<p>Paragraph II: a iaculis magna. Mauris suscipit pretium felis, eget hendrerit velit euismod eget. Nam tempus sodales ante, quis auctor nisi ullamcorper eget. Fusce sed ligula ut enim volutpat porttitor.</p>

<p> </p>

Which was what I ended up replacing by <p style=”padding-top: 18px;”> </p>

I would use Shift + Enter to make it stay like this…

<p><br />Paragraph I: pain sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Curabitur scelerisque sapien in egestas faucibus. Phasellus sodales augue eu tortor dapibus suscipit quis id enim.</p>

<p><br />Paragraph II: a iaculis magna. Mauris suscipit pretium felis, eget hendrerit velit euismod eget. Nam tempus sodales ante, quis auctor nisi ullamcorper eget. Fusce sed ligula ut enim volutpat porttitor.<br /><br /></p>

So, you may wonder what is the problem? Simple.

In 1st. place that, as far as I could find out…

…”While &nbsp can be useful in some situations, it should not be used excessively as it can cause content rendering issues in the browser”…

And, as I already mentioned, on my site there are thousands of these…

<p style=”padding-top: 18px;”> </p>

That by replacing them I would be left with thousands of these others…

<p>&nbsp;<p/>

And in 2nd. A place that, as I already told you, it is IMPOSSIBLE to replace so many codes in a single operation! (And believe me, I have already tried ALL the ways described above).

You. what dou you recommend?

I await v/comments.

Thank you so much.

Greetings.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 3 months ago by Jan Dembowski. Reason: Fixed formatting

Don’t create empty paragraphs to adjust your styling/layout. It’s wrong.

A   is not the way either. It’s used to keep 2 words together and prevent a line break. Again, it’s not to be used to fix your styling/layout.

The only solution is rewriting your content the right way, how HTML was designed. Some tricks seem to work, but they only do, until they don’t. So don’t use them.

Dear friends: I decided to come back here basically for 2 (two) reasons;

– The 1st. Because I still DO NOT know when I am going to finish implementing the “solution” that I found to the problem raised on this site (In a while you will know why, heh:(

– The 2nd. Because what I “discovered”, could contribute to help others with similar problems when upgrading to WordPress 6.3.

So let’s get started…

As @josklever says, a “solution” was…

…”<p>A tag is used for paragraphs of text. This distance between paragraphs is determined by CSS”…

But that is, in my opinion, something wrong because, as I understand it, the “problematic” code, that is,

<p style=”padding-top: 18px;”></p>

It’s a CSS “determination”! I’m wrong? o_o

On the other hand, he also states that…

…”When you want to use a line break to create extra space, you should have used <br>which can be entered in WordPress and programs like Microsoft Word using Shift+Enter”…

But that in MY case didn’t work either, it works and it won’t work. Why? Simple.

If you look closely, MANY of my pages (for example this one, stage9.atutrabajo.org/curriculum-vitae/) in addition to containing a LOT of text (in this case +40 thousand words (－??)), contain…

Images + Banners + Gifts + Videos. Yeah. I know. It’s crazy, but hey ˉ\_(ツ)_/ˉ

However, they should know that EVERYTHING has a purpose:

– The size. Because, for example in this case, I am competing for a keyword (curriculum vitae) that has +280 thousand searches/month (Only in Spain, which is what I can measure with my free resources, heh:).

And because (as you surely know) Google (+97% of organic searches worldwide), “rewards” more those sites that contain the largest (and best) amount of information on a particular topic.

And believe me that (modestly, of course ?(???)つ) There was, is (and will not be) ANYONE with so much information on this subject (job search) in ALL and each of my pages or entries!

– The banners because, if you notice, they are links (images) to the Courses Related to MY Theme, which I promote as an Affiliate (Main “support” of my project, heh:).

– EVERYTHING else (Gifts, Videos and even the “problematic” spaces between paragraphs) because, according to the writing “gurus”…

…”If you put text, text and more text, you will cause a beastly headache. The human being is lazy and his brain is addicted to images, gifs and cute animals. Some of these things must be in your post.

Every 4-5 paragraphs give air to your reader’s brain and put an image or a gif. I use gifs because they are usually funny, they are fun and they get you out of so much “read, read, read”. The images, at the very least, give the reader a little breather and make them grab the next paragraph with more force.

Therefore, you should include images after the introduction and every 5-7 paragraphs if possible. Yes, I know some don’t, but those few are too few or too well known to need to. You are not a megaguru or Infoautonomous, which also serves as an example to me because many times it does not even put images.”…

So, as you can see, I DID NOT invent ANYTHING, because EVERYTHING was ALREADY invented \_(-_-)_/

That being said, what then? So…

As it turns out, to insert these things, I needed one of two:

a) Use blocks of (code, video, etc.)

b) Insert it DIRECTLY into the html

And I HAD to choose the latter. Why? Well, basically for 3 (three) “reasons”:

1) The 1st. If you look at the code of my assets (banners, videos) you will see that they look like this;

<img class=”responsiveImage” The corresponding code for each case>

And this is because, I didn’t find a fucking html block, that would make my banners look GOOD in ALL sizes (for example on tablets, cell phones, etc.).

Ergo. Finding out there, I created a new class (responsiveImage) with which, adding the corresponding CSS, the banners were PERFECT for me.

And the same thing happened with the videos. So, I had to insert them with code like this;

<div class=”embed-container”><iframe the corresponding code></iframe></div>

And to the class in question (embed-container) add the necessary CSS.

2) The 2nd. My “poor” PC still runs Windows 7, and has a processor with BARELY 3Gb of RAM. Ergo, when I loaded such a “monster” (WordPress is, heh:) and wanted to work in the Editor, from time to time I would get “Out of memory” messages and/or an “Error 520”.

Ergo. I had no choice but to start removing things that were loaded in my Administration Panel (that is, blocks, panels, etc.) and made it MUCH heavier.

Finally (and as if this were not enough)…

3) The 3rd. My “poor” hosting assigned me JUST 1Gb of RAM. And above SHARED.

Ergo. Every 2 x 3 the following message appeared…

…”Your site has been limited in the last 24 hours

CPU resources were limited for your site

You have reached the incoming process limit (number of processes running simultaneously such as php and cgi scripts as well as cron jobs or shell sessions) 49 times”…

So, as you can see, with all this “background” I couldn’t keep adding ANYTHING that wasn’t completely MUST HAVE.

And perhaps they will wonder (and rightly so, heh:)… What will all this have to do with the “solution” proposed by @josklever? Simple.

It turns out that when (as he suggested) I hit Shift + Enter, the html would look like this;

<p><br />Paragraph I: pain sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Curabitur scelerisque sapien in egestas faucibus. Phasellus sodales augue eu tortor dapibus suscipit quis id enim.</p>

<p><br />Paragraph II: a iaculis magna. Mauris suscipit pretium felis, eget hendrerit velit euismod eget. Nam tempus sodales ante, quis auctor nisi ullamcorper eget. Fusce sed ligula ut enim volutpat porttitor.</p>

<p> </p>

But, when “later”, I tried to insert in the html, some banner and/or video with the aforementioned method (Edit code), and I clicked to save it, this happened to me…

<p>Paragraph I: pain sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Curabitur scelerisque sapien in egestas faucibus. Phasellus sodales augue eu tortor dapibus suscipit quis id enim.</p>

<p>Paragraph II: a iaculis magna. Mauris suscipit pretium felis, eget hendrerit velit euismod eget. Nam tempus sodales ante, quis auctor nisi ullamcorper eget. Fusce sed ligula ut enim volutpat porttitor.</p>

<img class=”responsiveImage” The corresponding code for each case>

<p></p>

In other words, as you can see, the html recommended by @josklever (<p><br />) DISAPPEARED! (*)

(*) In fact, I did, as soon as I opened the code editor and went to look for the banner code, to copy and paste, heh.

And then? So, I kept looking and found the “solution” (*)

(*) About the quotes now you will see why (≧︿≦)

1) Insert in the php function of my child theme, the following code;

/* ——-Shortcode Line Break ——–*/

function line_break_shortcode() {

return ‘<br />’;

} add_shortcode( ‘br’, ‘line_break_shortcode’ );

2) Insert in c/line break (where the problematic html code was before) this shortcode;

[br]

And… soooo!

That is to say, now the html looked like this…

<p>[br]</p>

<p>Paragraph I: pain sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Curabitur scelerisque sapien in egestas faucibus. Phasellus sodales augue eu tortor dapibus suscipit quis id enim.</p>

<p>[br]</p>

<p>Paragraph II: a iaculis magna. Mauris suscipit pretium felis, eget hendrerit velit euismod eget. Nam tempus sodales ante, quis auctor nisi ullamcorper eget. Fusce sed ligula ut enim volutpat porttitor.</p>

<p>[br]</p>

And this yes, it “endures” ANYTHING (*)

(*) When I search/copy/paste a code, when I save, etc.

So I replace ALL the <p style=”padding-top: 18px;”></p> with <p>[br]</p> and that’s it, right?

But NO (And now I explain the quotes).

It turns out that, as I already mentioned, I tried EVERY Method there was to do it!

And, there was NO case.

So why do I know this would work? Good because…

Among ALL the Methods that I tried, the only one that (almost) worked for me was this one;

1) I installed the Search & Replace plugin

2) I hit “Find” (<p style=”padding-top: 18px;”></p>) and “Replace with” (<p>[br]</p>)

And soooo! (Or almost, heh:)

Because it turns out that… It did NOT find NOR modify all of them! But a MINIMAL part! ˉ\(°_o)/ˉ (*)

(*) Frankly I do NOT know what percentage. But for example in a Sales Page, I modify JUST one line of code! (To be more exact, the LAST).

I do not know why. But I guess it has to do with what you can read when you go to;

cPanel/phpMyAdmin/my-DB/wp_posts/whatever-row-it/Edit/post_content

As for what…

…”Due to its length, this column may not be editable”…

Anyway. \_(-_-)_/

Conclusion (And now to finish, heh:).

a) I modified a TINY part of my entire site (with the method described above).

b) Tried EVERYTHING (Including upgrading to WP 6.3)

And soooo! It worked.

And why didn’t I leave it like that? Simple. Because when I upgraded to WP 6.3 ALL line breaks were lost (Except as I said, the ones that look like this <p>[br]</p> in the html code and/or this other [br] in the plain text of the Editor).

And that, as I already mentioned is NOT an option.

So, what I’m going to do is (Yes. You guessed it)…

I’ll leave the [br] where they are. But unfortunately…

I will have to insert them ONE X ONE in the 43 pages + 8 entries where they are NOT!

Finally (now yes, heh:).

It is NOT as @josklever says with respect to…

…”Empty paragraphs have no meaning and seem to be ignored in WP 6.3. I’m not sure if that was intended or not, but if it breaks your content, it’s because your content has always been buggy. It looked good, but it really isn’t. An update like this reveals bugs, but doesn’t create them”…

I started with this site +3 years ago (I don’t even remember anymore, heh:).

And, as I already said, I “invented” the problematic code (<p style=”padding-top: 18px;”></p>) to solve a problem that WordPress itself generated for me. Spot.

Ergo. If it wasn’t a “workable” solution, WordPress must have invented some sort of +/- warning like this…

…”That code is NOT allowed”… (Or whatever).

And it’s NOT that I wrote one, but THOUSANDS.

Ergo. If it was wrong, they SHOULD have warned me BEFORE I continued.

That way, I would have looked for an alternative. Spot.

And not that I say so (that too). But a few users (Even in THIS forum).

So. Again. The “mistake” was NOT made by me (I don’t understand ANYTHING about code).

That’s why I repeat. If mine was wrong…they should NOT have let me continue!

Oh well. I better leave it here because, I’m wasting a LOT of time.

So, from now on and for a “little time” (put it) I will have to dedicate myself to “correcting” the mistake made by the creators of this platform. Spot.

One way or another. Thank you very much.

Greetings.

Let’s summarize this:

• You don’t know (enough) about HTML and CSS and you still think you know it better that others.
• You don’t know (enough) about SEO and you believe some incorrect information you’ve read somewhere.
• You made many wrong decisions, but you only want to blame others.
• You try to fix one mistake with another, and another, and another…
• If you want more help, hire a professional.

I’m out.

Hello Jose Klever.

First of all (and in case you didn’t READ everything I wrote BEFORE) I DO NOT know English.

Ergo. What I do is something very simple:

– I put together a text (like this one) in a Word document (like this one:).

– I select, copy and paste it into a translator (Google).

– I do the same with the “result” of the translation

– Paste it into another Word document

And soooo! I paste it here. Spot.

Consequently I have NO IDEA what you’re getting, heh.

So, if for any reason you felt “offended” I apologize.

Having said that.

In case what I wrote was not understood, I was THANKING you for your intervention.

Nothing else. Nothing less.

On the other hand, you did NOT need to be so petulant, let alone try to be offensive.

Yeah. It’s true. It may be that (as you say)…

…”You don’t know (enough) about HTML and CSS and you still think you know it better than others”…

…”You don’t know (enough) about SEO and you believe some wrong information that you have read somewhere”…

To begin with, as I said before and in case you didn’t READ it…

…”I am NOT a Web Designer, and I also “hate” them, heh… (I put hate in quotes because the other time someone was offended without realizing that it was a joke/joke/joke or whatever you call it).

And – also – it is true that…

…”I know NOTHING about SEO”… (And also I DON’T care, heh:)

But you know what?: Everyone who “knows” about CSS, HTML, SEO and all that, guess what…

Exactly. They learned it by READING! (Or that you thought they were born with a “gift”?:).

I have a degree in Administration (UBA-FCE) Specialized in Logistics and Investment Projects which, after +20 years of service, was fired from a multinational. Spot.

And I’m trying to help others NOT make the same mistakes that I did, which caused me to lose my job at 47 and NEVER get another one again.

Ergo. The only thing that interested me was pouring ALL my experience (I had my 1st job at 14, so imagine) because, after applying to +947 job offers, attending +24 interviews and having worked (temporarily) in 2 companies that knew me from before (they were clients and/or suppliers of the multinational where I worked) I did NOT get a job!

That is the ONLY goal of my Site.

NOT the CSS. NOT the HTML. NOT the SEO.

Ergo. I would have to be focused ONLY on selecting/copying and pasting the texts that I ALREADY have written (in Word) on this topic.

Nothing else. Nothing less.

Spot.

Finally.

Who gives you the right to judge ANYONE? Do you think you are “superior” to someone to tell them what they have to do or not? Because why do you know anything about CSS, HTML, or SEO? Oh really? o_o

For example:

Do you have any idea if I can (or not) do what you suggest (…”hire a professional”…)?

Anyway.

For your information…

I wrote all of this and, I took the last 2(two) days away from my gigantic project, to try to help others who might have the same problems with WordPress 6.3.

No more no less.

Now to finish and in case it was not understood. As to…

…”You made many wrong decisions, but you only want to blame others.

You try to fix one mistake with another, and another, and another”…

I ask you…

When did I blame someone? (I mean some PERSON).

I simply said that, in MY opinion (Why can I have an opinion, right?) the mistake was made by the WordPress COMPANY (Why, did you think that companies don’t make mistakes? Do you want me to tell you why I ran out of work after +20 years of service?).

And when I described the mistake that (in MY opinion) he made, I simply said that…

…”If it wasn’t a “viable” solution, WordPress should have invented some sort of +/- warning like this…

…”That code is NOT allowed”… (Or whatever).

And it is NOT that he wrote one, but THOUSANDS.

That is to say. If it was wrong, they SHOULD have warned me BEFORE proceeding.

That way, I would have looked for an alternative”…

No more. No less. Spot.

And now I add that…

Since I started writing texts on my site +3 years ago (I can’t remember anymore, heh:), there have been not one or two, but hundreds of WordPress updates.

And with NONE have I had this problem BEFORE. Ergo, I continued writing.

THAT was the mistake that IMHO made by WordPress (NOT warning me BEFORE). Spot.

And one more thing. Yes, as they say…

…”Do you understand that everyone here is not paid anything, we just want to help people who are experiencing problems with their site and if you are not going to be courteous here, do you think someone will help you?”…

So. I wonder:

1) Why – as we say here – “jump” in defense of WordPress? (*)

(*) That (on the other hand) I DO NOT think WP needs ANYONE to “defend” it, heh

2) Why do you “get in” here if you are so “sensitive”? (*)

(*) You could simply NOT answer ANYTHING and that’s it, right?

Anyway.

As I said…

– I do NOT speak or understand English. Ergo, if at any time I “offended” someone, I apologize.

– I came here to try to HELP others who might have the same problem.

– What I do (or don’t do) with my site is SOLELY my business.

Spot.

Over and out.

Greetings.

PS: If you are going to continue to be “offended” by anything, please…

How about they let someone from WordPress answer, come on?

• This reply was modified 1 year, 3 months ago by Jan Dembowski.

How about they let someone from WordPress answer, come on?

I’m not from WordPress, there is no one from WordPress. This is a community opensource project. There is no “WordPress” in any sense that you may mean.

Solutions were posted and you did not prefer them. That’s OK too but you’ve a problem and solutions from volunteers were presented. Your site is your own; no one is owed an answer they want. Or even an answer at all.

PS: If you are going to continue to be “offended” by anything, please…

P.S. I am a forum moderator and your topic ceased to have any positive value many posts ago. I am closing this topic now.

Jos tried to help you solve your problem. You may have believed that you were somehow expressing gratitude, and I will admit that the written word is awful for conveying tone but your wall of words do not read like “thankfulness”.

I am sure you did not have negative intentions but it sure read that way.

P.P.S. Please don’t copy into Microsoft Word then here. The formatting does not work in anyway when you do that. I attempted and failed to fix the formatting of your replies.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 3 months ago by Jan Dembowski. Reason: Finished a paragraph that I started
• This reply was modified 1 year, 3 months ago by Jan Dembowski. Reason: Typo