Internet Explorer Issues: title wonkiness

First of all, I think your post gets confusing due to the terminology you’ve used: the banner/logo thing at the top is *not* the title.

Secondly, in WinXP/IE6, the left part of the banner/logo is missing, as you described. But rather than cut it up and try to position pieces with absolute positioning, why not just make it one piece? Then you don’t have the problem.

Third, if you leave “IE users to live with it”, you may be missing a very large part of the market.

So, in other words you have no idea how to fix the problem other that make a bigger image. Sigh.

Your suggestion to make one solid image is actually not the worst suggestion I have ever heard, but it fails to address my questions. Moreover, using your line of reasoning why not just make the entire page one big JPEG file? That way “I don’t have the problem”. The trouble with that line of reasoning is obvious.

As an aside, I believe most people know what I am referring to here.

Depending on what theme a person is using, the section in question might be referred to as “sitename”, “sitetitle”, “header” etc. I have at least 4 themes that use a variation of those references. I think that most people can read this post and deduce what I am talking about. However, I am sure they are most appreciative that you came along and saved the day by clearing things up. ?? I know I sure am :P.

In the end, your reply answers none of my questions. Positioning works. The positioning I am using works in Safari, FF, Opera, Camino, Mozilla and maybe even iE 7.0

What I want to know is this: Clearly IE 6.x is haing issues. Is the coding I am using wrong or is the problem stemming from IE 6.x being broken? For example, does my site display properly in IE 7.0? If my positioning is in error, then lets fix it using better positioning techniques.

PS: you also might want to check this out-

https://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

IE is clearly on the downswing. Has been for a long time, but this site shows that the decline in IE is even worse than I suspected.

At the beginning of 2006, IE saw a 60% market share. It is now 49%. Firefox is gaining steadily each month, nearing 30% currently, while IE 7.0 sees a scant 7%. Can you say “trend”? I knew you could.

My feeling has always been that we should design compliant web sites and the browsers will follow. For example, I bet my site displays fine in IE 7.0 For all of IE’s issues clearly each new version is increasingly compliant.

IE 7.0 is the last version of IE. It is going to be extinct soon. Microsoft will come up with a new browser, or lose more market share to FF and Opera and Safari. And when (if) MS does come out with a new browser, even the most diehard IE fans will likely dump IE it for the next greatest thing Bill Gates makes. It is the nature of things.

As for web design, anyone with enough experiencse knows that using images takes advantage of a browsers inherent positioning capabilities. And images may or may not display in the same position from browser to browser. Some browsers may throw the position of images off entirely.

Bottom line is I want to use good code ?? and I do not want to resort to creating images just because positioning requires more thought. I would rather master positioning. Maybe it is the challenge that drives me. Hehehe

Merry Christmas

I believe most people know what I am referring to here.

actually i dont have a clue what youre referring to, are you talking about your post titles, or an image?

ohh, i know what youre talking about .. the title of your blog above the header image.

bah, I looked at that before in your other thread and gave up since ie doesnt have that nifty “edit css” toy. If i feel bored, I might download that page and have a look though.

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

Actually, Diane confused me. What the hell is a “banner/logo thing”?

ohh, i know what she’s talking about .. the title of my blog above the header image.

??

I am glad we cleared up all this confusion! There’s just to much damn confusing goin’ on round here!

What we got here is a failure to communicate. Some women you can’t reach, that is they just don’t listen when you talk reasonable so you get what we had here today, which is the
way she wants it, well she gets it, and I don’t like it any better than you men.

he hehe

So, anyone with an answer for my post?

Some women you can’t reach, that is they just don’t listen when you talk reasonable so you get what we had here today, which is the
way she wants it, well she gets it, and I don’t like it any better than you men.

what? what the hell is wrong with you? do you want help or a (another) wasted thread?

If anyone has confused things its you, just for the damn record.

> There’s just to much damn confusing goin’ on round here!

That’s not all, I imagine.

Thank you for schooling me <grin> with regard to web design. I’ve made literally dozens upon dozens of websites in the past 10 years; some use absolute or relative positioning, but none have experienced the problems you’re clearly having with a workaround.

I have, however, experienced the problem of someone posting reams of information in a forum, demanding a solution, and belittling those who seek to help. Clearly you feel entitled to something from the people who volunteer here, without giving so much as the courtesy of a little politeness on your part.

As a last, you might also note that browser stats differ among differing markets.

Adios.

[pardon the diversion]

That was a movie quote.

IE Developer Toolbar

ive installed that handy, its not worth its weight in a shortcut. and besides, why bother.. least here, that is.

I can go play poker after all and enjoy passive-agressiveness there much more.

Gee, with all of the help Diane is giving me, I just cannot contain the joy.

Let’s see: Diane has designed dozens and dozens of web sites using posotioning and yet her solution to my question about said positioning is to make a picture? LOL.

She comes into this thread, guns a-blazing, trying to come across as Little Ms. Smartypampers, and she gets OWNED! Then, she cries like a baby! LMAO

Anyway, Handy, is this toolbar gonna work on my Mac?

Ummmm nope.

Drat.

So will someone just check my site on IE7.0 at least???? Can you tell me if it works there. That way I can narrow down the issue.

Hey, my husband likes poker. ??

But me, I’m upgrading another WordPress blog. ??

(And thanks, guys.)

A) Remember that all helpers here are unpaid volunteers.

B) The toolbar link is for IE in response to one of whoo’s comments (and, as subsequently noted, she already has/hates it).

4evrblu, I don’t think so. I assumed you were talking about the header image; it would seem that the best way to handle that issue is not to slice it into pieces; and that’s what I said.

There is a difference between posting nasty comments and owning anything at all.

And I’m not sure why you think, after the behavior you’ve exhibited, I’d be interested in helping you. I owe you precisely nothing.

And some helpers are not worth their weight in a shortcut. Witness Diane’s replies.

All I am saying is that if you do not have an answer, either say so (and what would be the point of that) or simply do not reply. ??

And let’s just stick to the topic please. I am still wanting to know what this site looks like in IE 7.0 ??

As for “slice it into pieces”?? Diane, are you on narcotics? The header section in my web site is not made up of slices or pieces. There is one image, two sections of text, all controlled with positioning. Where do you come up with slices and pieces? If anyone is having trouble communicating and comprehending it is you. You may fancy yourself an expert, but you could have fooled me.

I know you have your own design firm. Why not try conducting yourself like someone who is a professional web design engineer. You are accomplishing nothing for anyone at this point.

It’s clear by your messages above that you have conflict with other people in other forums. You said so yourself. Instead of being critical of those who respond negatively to you, you might consider WHY they respond negatively to you.

Now, either post a solution or go to another topic.

And whooami, it was a movie quote. ?? and it was tongue in cheek.

Look I will say this one last word, and until someone decides to show something other than their ass, I am not going to say another thing.

All I want is a solution to the original post. That’s it. How can I be more clear than that? I took a long time to post a good question. I looked it over carefully so as to give even the most braindead amongst us the best chance of understanding the issue. I suppose I underestimated the extent to which some people are slow to understand. Oh well. Get over it.

Instead of solutions, I get lectures in terminology from an insecure person who thinks I am more interested in how smart she is than my problem. Guess what? I am not interested in how smart you are. I could care less. And frankly, the only thing you seem good at is pissing people off.

Handy, I have been in these forums for about a month. This community is awesome. You have helped me on more than one occassion. And I appreciate it. But, when someone comes in here and starts criticising my post simply because that is easier than actually answering the questions I asked, then they do so at their own risk. If you are THAT upset with me then you can ban ME from these forums if it pleases you to do so. I am OK with that.

But just because someone is a “volunteer” does not mean they are above reproach. Nor does it mean they are immune from criticism themselves should they chose to be an ass. I have just as much of a right to express my displeasure with anyone in these forums as they do.

Whooami? I do not understand what your major malfunction is. I was teasing Diane because she came in here, dropped her shorts and showed her rear end. If she wants to dish it out, then she needs to be able to take the heat. By her own admission, this is a problem she has pretty much everywhere she goes. Rosie Odonnell could learn a lesson of two about that….and she will very soon.

I have confused no one with this topic. Everybody understands it. The issue requires no further explanation. Either answer it, or shut up.

Finally, Handy, I have been very polite in these forums up to this point. You know that. You are a moderator. You have seen my interactions. I get along with folks here. But you need to know that I will fight back when pushed. I cannot stand having my time wasted. Diane did both things. Her bad.

just because she is a woman, does not give her a pass.