• Resolved webifiedOne

    (@webifiedone)


    We have been reading posts for about a week about how The Events Calendar plugin upgrade to version 6.1.1 has been throwing fatal errors that result in broken websites.

    In our correspondence with the developers, we were told they are working on a fix to the reported issues, but that a 3-day weekend for Juneteenth slowed their efforts.

    Then, everything went silent, and we haven’t heard anything.

    We are still seeing a few posts about issues with the latest update.

    When can we get an all-clear, or see a newer version that addresses the fatal errors already reported in this support forum?

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  • Nope, tried updating the latest version of the Events Calendar and Event Tickets Plus and it crashed my site again.

    Plugin Author Gustavo Bordoni

    (@bordoni)

    I am sorry if it felt like there was silence, I’ve been answering here on the WP.org forums every couple of hours about the issues some customers are facing.

    My focus is 100% on this so that customers can have a solution as soon as possible.

    @mastersofwp can you run a Compatibility Test like the link below?

    https://theeventscalendar.com/knowledgebase/k/testing-for-conflicts/

    @webifiedone I know you cannot run a compatibility test, is it possible for you to share a list of all the plugins you currently have active and your theme? On this thread?

    Best Regards,

    My client’s site has also crashed. I’m using the latest version of the Events Calendar and Events Tickets (both free version). Is there a quick workaround to get it back functioning? Could I downgrade to a previous stable release or something?

    Plugin Author Rafsun Chowdhury

    (@rafsuntaskin)

    @divipro We are working towards another release with the fix and will get it out as soon as possible. Meanwhile, you can revert to previous versions to get up and running again. Sorry for the inconveniences.

    Thanks @rafsuntaskin! Do you know which versions would be the safest versions to downgrade to? I’m on the latest version of WordPress (6.2.2).

    Plugin Author Gustavo Bordoni

    (@bordoni)

    Hi @divipro, the version @rafsuntaskin was just released. Please let us know if that fixes the problem you are facing. Version 5.6.0.2.

    Thread Starter webifiedOne

    (@webifiedone)

    Well, fortunately, for us — we have learned our lesson the hard way and have not even attempted to try any updates, or tests, at all. Rather, we also are relying on the reported stack traces, tests, and end-user reports to determine when the “dust has settled” on this update.

    Once we see reports that no more fatal errors exist, we’ll begin our own testing regimen to confirm no more errors exist. And, we also have the paid version, by the way, and utilize that for extended support once we actually begin our own testing routines, using ITIL framework to ensure all parties are involved in the testing.

    But, we start here, in the public domain to see what the larger population is experiencing first.

    Unfortunately, this is not the first time this has happened with Events Calendar updates, and so we have let our IT team know to view all future plugin updates with a wary eye — watch the support forums first, then test in a staging/test environment.

    But, lately, in the last 18 months, there have been at least two updates that have completely crashed websites — I mean literally wiped out the home page. So, we’re not taking any chances.

    I do have to say, this has been the most problematic plugin we use, when it comes to updates.

    I strongly recommend improved testing methodologies that are based on knowledge of your overall audience.

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    Plugin Author Gustavo Bordoni

    (@bordoni)

    @webifiedone honestly having a good routine to update plugins is always really important, updating any type of code should be taken very seriously since most problems are not caused by one variable alone.

    In the case of what happened this time it was a combination of an integration Avada had build into the code base for the Fusion Builder and a very low level change we made with the intention of making the code more insulated from these kinds of problems.

    Our Quality Assurance team does an amazing job catching most issues before release, but there are Edge cases specially once that require real world usage of third-party plugins (like it was the case here) that are just not really something that we can bake into their workflow, it would make every release take a lot longer which s bad for customers waiting for the bugfixes to be resolved.

    We are always improving our automated testing, but there are too many Themes and Plugins that have integrations with The Events Calendar for us to cover 100%, but we are always improving.

    Our team has already made lots of notes about certain things we could have done better from this past two weeks, and pieces of the code base that need to improve so that this doesn’t happen in the future.

    best regards,

    Thread Starter webifiedOne

    (@webifiedone)

    Thank you for your reply. It seems most serious and considerate. But, it does seem some industry standard testing methodologies that used to be employed might have gone wayside: ITIL V4, for example. AGIL methods? Are you using them? Regression analysis and testing? Github? (I can only hope.)

    If there are “too many themes and plugins to keep up with,” then maybe you’re not keeping up.

    Again, you should limit your scope of support — but make it clear what you support, to your end-users. Update your automated-testing to weed out unsupported devices and browsers, and to throw out an automated notice that can be used to inform end-users!

    For example, in my line of IT dev work, we had to stop support on older versions of Apple software and completely stop support of Internet Explorer browsers. This was several years ago. We were able to send a mass email to the entire enterprise (several tens of thousands of users) to update, or change, or go unspported.

    But, it remains a stark example.

    Your plugin update notices might need to include a notice of what still breaks, and why it breaks, and why it is NOT supported, or NO LONGER supported. Etc. That kind of thing.

    But, without such notices, the unexpected happens — everyone, everywhere just expects your plugins to magically work everywhere. That’s unrealistic.

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    Plugin Author Gustavo Bordoni

    (@bordoni)

    Keep in mind there are other rules at play when it comes to free plugins on www.ads-software.com we cannot change our update notices on the fly when we choose, an update is required to make that happen. Plugins hosted here cannot connect to an external server without explicit permission from the website administrator, which makes that kind of notice you suggested not helpful, since it wont apply to all users.

    Our quality assurance implements a lot of good practices and standards, you saying that “might have gone wayside” is just not true but is also a bit rude, what happens here is that we don’t control the whole stack, edge cases will always happen.

    We are not stopping support for anything, that is the part that is getting lost here. Other plugins and themes exist, and there isn’t a good way to keep of the integrations in sync, because again we don’t control the whole stack.

    It’s important to remember that I never said that that “there are too many plugins and themes to keep up”, that isn’t the problem at all. The concern is that we do not control their code or schedule, so problems of this nature will always exist as edge cases, that we will rely on users to be able to report as bug, no amount of testing can handle that.

    One of the ways we use to communicate with customers about these problems is this Forum.

    Thread Starter webifiedOne

    (@webifiedone)

    No. Nothing to keep in mind. You are not following industry standard IT best practices.

    Something has gone awry since we first signed up with you.

    But, things have taken a turn for the worse.

    The industry no longer agrees with your practices, so we are going to choose to drop you.

    Thread Starter webifiedOne

    (@webifiedone)

    The best thing to prove your point is to fix your defective plugin update.

    Can you do that?

    Prove it. Fix it.

    Thread Starter webifiedOne

    (@webifiedone)

    Then, prove that you have fixed it.

    Win the trust of all those subscribers. Win it.

    Thread Starter webifiedOne

    (@webifiedone)

    Otherwise, I think you have a rebellion on your hands.

    Thread Starter webifiedOne

    (@webifiedone)

    Nothing to say. Just speechless over the lack of a solution.

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