• I’m completely confused now.

    I have tried the following themes:

    Twenty Seventeen
    Astra
    OceanWP
    Blog Way

    … and some others.

    I believe I’m very far from unique in wanting the following basic options out of the box:

    1. The main blog page showing excerpts with a “read more” or “continue reading” button or link.

    Every advice I’ve managed to find on the web says that there is an option for inserting a “read more” button while you’re editing. My installation does not seem to feature that option, and none of the themes I’ve tried seem to feature it either.

    2. “Post a comment” link that is positioned UNDERNEATH the post, not above it.

    Optional (a blogger does not really need a subscriber list, does he, so, who cares?):

    3. A subscription form, complete with a ‘subscribe” button.

    Also optional, but would be nice to have:

    4. Typography whose default fonts are large enough (or can be rendered large enough) for Google NOT to complain that the text is too small to read in mobile mode.

    I do have a bunch of static pages on my site, and the HOME page points to those, rather than the blog posts. Is THAT the problem? I don’t know.

    I may be wrong, but in my view themes on the leading BLOGGING platform (WordPress) should feature such options ahead of ANY OTHER options.

    Each time I dig a little deeper, suggestions begin pouring in, telling me I should get this or that plug in and, above all, the premium (paid) version of the theme – without giving me any guarantees.

    I’ve played around with a bunch of plugins. One of them came damn near close to taking down and corrupting beyond recognition my entire site – one of the plugins that provide a comment section turned out to be incompatible with the Mailchimp plugin.

    I’m a fairly open-minded individual, but doesn’t it seem weird to anyone that blogging themes on a leading blogging platform do not INSTANTLY and FREE OF CHARGE provide a blogger with the BASIC features needed in blogging?

    Sheesh.

    Any ideas? Which theme should I try next?

    • This topic was modified 4 years, 9 months ago by rickyvernio.
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  • It seems that you tried several themes that are built for non-blog sites. As a theme reviewer, I can tell you that the majority of themes are for blogging, and a lot of them go out of their way to make something different for a static home page (not sure why, but they like to upsell their Pro versions).

    1. The main blog page showing excerpts with a “read more” or “continue reading” button or link.

    Most people don’t understand how Read More works. The site owner needs to choose a content strategy, and themes should support the options, but a lot of the authors don’t understand it either. Themes have two functions for output: the_content() and the_excerpt(). When a theme uses the_content for archive pages (like Twenty Seventeen does), WordPress outputs only up to the Read More marker. On single post pages, the entire content is output. When a theme uses the_excerpt for archive pages, the manual excerpt is retrieved and if there is not one, an excerpt is generated from the content.
    So you can see that the blogger must decide if they want to write excerpts or generate them or put Read More markers in the editor. Switching between these is tedious.

    2. “Post a comment” link that is positioned UNDERNEATH the post, not above it.

    I agree that it doesn’t make sense to have a link to post a comment with an excerpt, but the link at the top of the single post page usually just jumps down to the comment form. Having a link under the post doesn’t make much sense either, since the comment form is usually right there.

    3. A subscription form, complete with a ‘subscribe” button.

    This is not core functionality, and it is not a theme responsibility either. You will need a plugin for subscriptions.

    4. Typography whose default fonts are large enough

    This (in my opinion) should be adjustable somewhat, but most themes don’t. And it’s funny you say Google complains, because a couple of the theme authors that I told that their font size was too small said that they were fine since Google used 13px in Material Design. I often advocate that the base size is html {font-size: 100%} so that the user gets what they chose in their browser.

    Feel free to try my theme, which is very flexible and addresses all your points: https://www.ads-software.com/themes/twenty8teen

    Thread Starter rickyvernio

    (@rickyvernio)

    Thank you for your explanations, and especially for the theme suggestion – I really appreciate it. I’ll try it all out and get back to you with my report!

    Thread Starter rickyvernio

    (@rickyvernio)

    Hi, Joy.

    I switched to your theme.

    The comments are where they belong.

    There’s still no “read more” or “continue reading” button anywhere.

    I’ve tried these approaches:

    1. I included the “More” widget in my post after the second paragraph.

    2. I removed the “More” widget and published the post without it.

    3. I tried writing the excerpt in the little window myself.

    4. I left the little window alone, and the theme published the excerpt with “[…]” at the end.

    No effect. No “read more” button anywhere.

    Here’s a screenshot of one of my efforts:

    No effect.

    • This reply was modified 4 years, 9 months ago by rickyvernio.
    Thread Starter rickyvernio

    (@rickyvernio)

    Found ONE so far. It’s called Pinnacle.

    The theme has “read more” and “leave a comment” options right out of the box, in the right place.

    Also, perfect typography options. Any font, any size.

    However, the title is a huge problem. I’m trying to hide it, with an eye to having my uploaded background to serve as the title. The title either vanishes altogether, leaving me nothing to upload the background to, or stubbornly displays the site’s name on the BLOG page and, for some mysterious reason, the name of the category (in my case that would be “Uncategorized”) on post pages.

    What gives?

    I tried to get to their (Pinnacle’s) support forum. They wouldn’t let me in. Only paying customers are allowed. Free version users aren’t worth bothering about, I suppose.

    Sorry you are having such trouble.
    Regarding my theme, you can move things around easily.

    There’s still no “read more” or “continue reading” button anywhere.

    The theme uses the convention of making the title and featured image a link and the continue link is the default [...] that is part of the generated excerpt (because it can cut in the middle of a sentence). It confuses everyone for themes to put Read More when that is a specific thing that the user has to put into the post and it is only shown when full content is output on archive pages.
    Your description of your attempts to get the Read More indicate you are still not understanding how it works.

    For your free Pinnacle theme questions, you should ask at their support forum here.
    https://www.ads-software.com/support/theme/pinnacle

    Thread Starter rickyvernio

    (@rickyvernio)

    Thank you.

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