Manage Fonts not showing

  • amanandhishoe

    (@amanandhishoe)


    1 week, 1 day ago

    According to the documentation at https://www.ads-software.com/documentation/article/the-font-library/ you can manage your fonts this way:
    The Font Library lives in the?Site Editorat?Appearance > Editor. From the editor select to edit your site’s styles. To find the style settings click on the half circle?Styles?icon in the top right corner of the page. In the Styles panel, click?Typography > Manage fonts.

    However in Twenty Twenty-Five this does not work. When you go to the Typography section, there is no Manage fonts option. To get to the Font Library panel, you need to select one of the Typesets that is shown when you go to Typography. And then click on one of the fonts shown in the list of fonts for that Typeset. Then the Font Library panel opens. Or you can click on the adjustment/slider icon to the right of the Fonts label.

    But, even though that seems to let you change the fonts in a Typeset, those changes aren’t saved and don’t take effect.

    This is very confusing. If on the Fonts listing, there is an option to manage the fonts, but in reality the fonts in a typeset can’t be changed, why show the option?

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  • Hi
    The Font Library and the Manage fonts feature is part of WordPress, it is not part of the theme.
    I want to explain again that the theme is not changing the Font Library in any way, and the theme can only support what is already available in WordPress.

    The “Manage fonts” option is still available from the Typography panel in the Site Editor:

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    Thread Starter amanandhishoe

    (@amanandhishoe)

    However, in theme Twenty Twenty-Five in the Typography panel, I don’t see anything that says “Manage Fonts”. That is what is confusing. Select Typography and you see a list of Typesets. Below that is a list of Fonts, and below that is Elements, followed by Font Sizes.

    I did discover that clicking on the slider icon to the right of Fonts does bring up the Font Library panel. And after some playing around figured out how to install and change the fonts available to the theme. And that to change which fonts are used, to ignore the typesets, and set the fonts I want for each Element.

    It would be more useful if the label “Fonts” said “Manage Fonts” and was a link to the Font Library.

    Thread Starter amanandhishoe

    (@amanandhishoe)

    I think what contributes to my addled brain’s confusion is that when you click on a Typeset it shows the fonts of that Typeset in the Fonts section. So if you click on a font, and select another font or make a different font selection, it looks like you have changed the fonts in that Typeset. But you have done no such thing. Click on the Typeset you thought you changed, and the font changes you made and which show in the Fonts section are gone.
    The Fonts section is this hybrid list where sometimes it displays the fonts of a Typeset, and at other times it displays the fonts in your Font Library.
    Since you can’t modify a Typeset, it might be better to have a different way of showing the fonts in a Typeset instead of using the Fonts section to do that.
    For example, if you edited the Elements so they don’t use any of the fonts of the Typesets, but fonts you installed in the Font Library, when you bring up Typography again, the fonts in the Fonts section will display those fonts and not any of the fonts in any of the Typesets. But click on any Typeset and you are back in Alice in Wonderland and the only way to get back to the fonts for your site is to undo.
    Fortunately, fonts are not something I change often, and once I am satisfied I probably will not bother with the Typography settings again.

    ?if you click on a font, and select another font or make a different font selection, it looks like you have changed the fonts in that Typeset. But you have done no such thing. Click on the Typeset you thought you changed, and the font changes you made and which show in the Fonts section are gone.

    I am not able to reproduce this.

    Note that you must save any changes that you make to a typeset.
    If you make the change, and then leave or refresh the page or similar, the changes are not saved.

    Oh actually, on my second attempt, looking closer, the change is saved as a custom style.
    The typeset that is added by themes is not updated, instead a custom typeset is saved and used.
    So you need to deselect the theme typeset to see the changes you saved.

    I could not find a way to “deselect a theme typeset” without refreshing the page or undoing changes by using the revisions feature.

    Thread Starter amanandhishoe

    (@amanandhishoe)

    This is what happens when I do these steps.
    I go to the Appearance->Editor and select Styles->Typography. Then if I select one of the typesets, I see the fonts for that typeset below the list of typesets. In the screenshot below, I selected the 1st Typeset and see that it consists of fonts Fira Code and Manrope.

    Now I click on the Fira Code font and the Font Library Panel pops up. I deselect Fira Code and select Bevan font in the Font Library and click the Update button in the Font Library.
    Now when I exit the Font Library, I see Bevan font in the list of fonts, however the Typeset I had selected is no longer selected as in the screenshot below:


    So even though I added the Bevan font, and I see it in the list of fonts, even though I started with the first Typeset selected, it is no longer selected. This is very confusing behavior. I can select a Typeset and see the fonts for that Typeset. I can click on those fonts, so I would think I am able to edit the fonts in the Typeset, but actually I can’t.

    I started with a Typeset selected, thought I could edit the fonts in that Typeset, but when I return from the Font Library the Typeset that was selected before I went to the Font Library is no longer selected. So what is the meaning of the fonts in the font list at this point?

    It’s not the list of fonts in the WordPress site. It is a mix of the fonts that were in the Typeset I had selected plus any additional fonts I selected while in the Font Library. And what does clicking “Save” in the editor mean at this point?

    I have opened an issue in the Gutenberg GitHub repository, since this is not a problem with the theme, but with functionality in the editor. I will add a link to this topic.

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