Matomo cookie consent

Hi @frankh1969,

I just asked our IT lawyer for an update. We will update consent management based on new guidelines, if available. So after our lawyer reviewed this matter we will take immediate action.

To enable consent for Matomo at this moment, please let me know you have added Matomo currently, with Complianz, Tag Manager, PLugin etc.

regards Aert

• This reply was modified 4 years, 9 months ago by Aert Hulsebos.

Hello @aahulsebos

Thank you for the fast answer. At the moment I have completely deactivated Matomo. I wanted to write the code in the Script Center but unfortunately that doesn’t work either, Matomo is locked but not unlocked.

Now I’m just waiting for something to come out of you.

Greetings Frank

Hi @frankh1969,

You can add:

  var _paq = window._paq || [];
  _paq.push(['trackPageView']);
  _paq.push(['enableLinkTracking']);
  (function() {
    var u="//{$MATOMO_URL}/";
    _paq.push(['setTrackerUrl', u+'matomo.php']);
    _paq.push(['setSiteId', {$IDSITE}]);
    var d=document, g=d.createElement('script'), s=d.getElementsByTagName('script')[0];
    g.type='text/javascript'; g.async=true; g.defer=true; g.src=u+'piwik.js'; s.parentNode.insertBefore(g,s);
  })();

in the script center;

In your tracking code, {$MATOMO_URL} would be replaced by your Matomo URL and {$IDSITE} would be replaced by the idsite of the website you are tracking in Matomo.

Then Matomo will be set after consent only. (Full consent in this case)

@paapst will respond shortly.

Hi @aahulsebos

I had already tried and now again but Matomo is not unlocked.

The code is now still visible in the source code.

Hi @aahulsebos

I deactivate Matomo for the time being until something like Google Analytics results, where you can choose whether statistics can be collected. This is currently too risky for me because of the GDPR.

Greeting
Frank

Hi @frankh1969,

The code can still be visible in the page source, without triggering a request. If you activate it for a short while, we can have a look.

You can also enter Matomo in Complianz, under Cookies -> Statistics without anonymizing IP. Which will have the same effect,

regards Aert

• This reply was modified 4 years, 9 months ago by Aert Hulsebos.

Hi

I have installed the code again in the Script Center so that you can have a look at it.

This is a good idea with the IP, after you have looked i will set the field with the anonymize IP to no.

Thank you

Hi @frankh1969

According to several Dataprotection Authorities within the EU it is not necessary to ask visitors for consent to collect (first party) website statistics such as Matomo if the owner of the website ensures that the collected data are only used for the statistics of that website.

Yes, we are aware of the recent ruling of the BGH, the position of the German Data Authority regarding Google analytics, and ofcourse the october 2019 ruling of the EU-Court in the Planet 49 case. However, both rulings have said absolutely nothing about the question if first party analytics cookies are allowed without consent.

The Court ruled that if you need consent, which is not always the case, that consent should be given freely and actively. (so a pre-ticked box is not allowed, but only for cookies that would need prior consent), and that a cookiepolicy should give enough information about the placed cookies. Our plugin actually has endorsed and supported this point of view since we started in May 2018.

• This reply was modified 4 years, 8 months ago by Mathieu Paapst.
• This reply was modified 4 years, 8 months ago by Mathieu Paapst.

Hi @paapst

Yes, I have now read a lot on this topic and somehow one hand does not know what the other is doing.

It means that if you deactivate cookies, there is still a finger print.

If you want to be on the safe side, you should get an opt-in. At least that says Dr. Schwenke here

But I thank you for the great service you offer.

Greetings Frank

Sorry, here is the Link: https://datenschutz-generator.de/bgh-cookies-opt-in-faq-checkliste/#Ist_ein_OptIn_fuer_die_Dienste_Matomo,_Google_Analytics_oder_das_FacebookPixel_erforderlich

Hi there. Thomas from Matomo here. Just wanted to mention that BGH was mostly around third party cookies, remarketing, etc.

Since latest Matomo release we understand that you don’t need to ask for any consent if cookies are disabled and you don’t track personal data see https://matomo.org/faq/new-to-piwik/how-do-i-use-matomo-analytics-without-consent-or-cookie-banner/

If you have cookies enabled and you don’t track personal data, you maybe need to ask for cookie consent depending on where you have your site and where your visitors are located.

Hi @tsteur, @frankh1969, @paapst,

As Complianz offers both options for Matomo, I consider this thread closed for further legal discussions.

regards Aert

Hello everyone

Thank you for the great support. Helped me a lot.

Let us surprise what data protection still has in store.

Have a nice day for everyone.

Greeting
Frank