Navigation and Header issues

and triple posting will get you NO where fast.

allow me to point those who might wonder back to the other posts:

https://www.ads-software.com/support/topic/83740?replies=13

and …

https://www.ads-software.com/support/topic/78470?replies=6

As for this remark,

I am being forced to prioritize something of little value to me just to get the assistance with the problem I sought out help with.

Funny how that works when youre getting volunteer support, eh? For the record you are not being FORCED into doing anything, you have lots of choices..

3 of which are :

1. Learn XHTML : That will undoubtedly help you fix your own problem, and it will also aid you in fixing the remaining 32 errors.

2. Continue to post here, bemoaning people that help for free.

3. Muddle through the errors, learning as you go, and asking for help with those.

and for the record, those 4 errors that you so self-rightously point out exist on the main www.ads-software.com page — those are the result of missing alt descriptions, they are NOT errors that affect the over all structure of the site.

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what exactly are you looking for anyone to do here anyway? Have you copied and pasted the old HTML into your existing header.php?

It doesnt take a scientist to compare the 2 files and see that they are not the same in the header.

https://www.village-idiot.org/broke/lazy.png

You will prolly need to use the same exact HTML that you used in the original file. IF the new CSS affects the header then you will need to adjust the CSS you call out inside the actual header.php

Your reply is exactly the hostile enviorment I am referring to. I took the suggestions that were given. Obviously when assisted with the XHTML errors I have corrected them. And still no one as even adressed the orginal question posted by me.

Funny enough the page I posted as an example has 74 errors and the layout is just fine. So I know this is not an issue with my site needing to be XHTML valid.

I know .. I know, its a bitch when you dont get EXACTLY what you want when you want it. It’s easy to call people that expect something of you hostile — makes you feel better, I reckon.

I should add that the ONLY reason I even saw fit to LOOK at your files is because you HAVE largely fixed the major errors on your site. For that, you ought to be applauded – what remains are actually very simple fixes.

That said, expecting people to work for you, and not WITH you is ill-advised.

As for the copy paste remark. I did that at first. However because of not having ever used php before I have basically just fiddled with things to see how it might change the layout or look. Obviously something I have done has caused this but for the life of me I am unable to figure out how to shift the navigation to the area it should be.

And do not think I have not researched this. I spent a few days looking up alternate ways to do things before I came to the forum seeking help. I am as you can see from things self taught. Which means there are gaps in my education. Sometimes you need someone with more knowledge and skill to explain what it is you are doing wrong. That is why I came to the forum.

Can you explain something to me that I am a bit confused by

Error Line 6, column 91:

I do not understand why they keep mentioning this >. Do I need to be ending things differently?

you cannot let the .php extension or the stuff inside <?php ?> intimidate you. You can edit those files to your hearts content, just be careful not to insert something inside of <?php … ?>`

“Error Line 6, column 91:”

what page?

hahaha, I was looking at the errors in the 26.2 page

Error Line 425, column 27

and truthfully I am excited by the whole php stuff. I can see the huge advantge of it over a pure html template if you have a multiple page site.

i dont see any changes to the file — the nav bar wont move itself (thats an attempt at humor, NOT sarcasm). Copy and paste the code right out of that other file:

<div id="header">
<ul id="nav">
<li><a href="/index.html">home</a></li>
<li><a href="/bio.html">about</a></li>
<li><a href="/index.html">archive</a></li>
<li id="current"><a href="/26.2.html">26.2</a></li>
<li><a href="/productions.html">productions</a></li>
<li><a href="/links.html">recommendations</a></li>
<li><a href="/contact.html">contact us</a></li>
</ul>
</div>


add the CSS thats affecting that display to your theme’s style.css.

After youve done that I will be willing to take another look.

.header {background-color: #000000;
background-image: url(https://www.webmachiavelli.com/images/header.gif);
background-repeat: no-repeat;

background-position:left;
height: 175px;
width: 730px;
margin-right: auto;
margin-left: auto;
padding: 0px;
margin-top: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px;
border-right-width: 10px;
border-right-style: solid;
border-right-color: #FFFFFF;
border-left-width: 10px;
border-left-style: solid;
border-left-color: #FFFFFF;
border-top-width: 10px;
border-top-style: solid;
border-top-color: #FFFFFF;
}
.header h1{
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 25px;
font-weight: bold;
color: #FFFFFF;
text-decoration: none;
margin: 0px;
padding-top: 56px;
padding-right: 0px;
padding-bottom: 0px;
padding-left: 50px;
}
.header nav {
list-style: none;
position: absolute;
border-right: 1px solid #fff;
height: 175px;
position: absolute;
top: 15px;
left: 100px;
margin-right: auto;
margin-left: auto;
}

.header li a {
color: #fff;
font: normal 11px/22px verdana, arial, tahoma, sans-serif;
display: block;
width: 155px;
height: 24px;
background-color: #000;
border-bottom: 1px solid #fff;
padding-left: 10px;
text-decoration: none;
font-weight: bold;
}

.header li a:hover {
background-color: #333;
}

add the CSS that’s affecting that display to your theme’s style.css.

Not here, to your theme’s style.css file ??
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Look, one reason why many helpers refuse to look at a site having too many validation errors is that in cases like that we have to go through ALL the code errors to see which one is causing the faulty layout. Whereas, if the code is valid but the layout is still not OK, we can concentrate on the structural elements and the related stylesheet to help you (or anyone else) to get back their desired layout. Having in mind that all the helpers around here are volunteers, I think it’s just a matter of basic politeness to try to make their job a bit easier. Whenever the help seeker is willing to put a little effort in learning and applying the advice, usually, all the helpers will do their best to help them till the final result.
However, when they meet arguments and a lack of willingness for “self-help”… they will abandon that thread in a second.

well, the source looks the same and it’s been a couple hours.. watched a good movie (The Inside Man). Ill check one of your threads later to see if you have made any progress.