• Due to increased traffic from the CSS Reboot, I have successfully upgraded an experiment page on my site to WP 1.5 Strayhorn. I know that many of you here in the WP forum are familiar with this page, but for those of you who aren’t and for those of you who have inquired about the lack of ability to comment directly on the page, here it is:

    https://www.jasonspage.net/blog/nodiv/

    For those not familiar with it, this ‘extreme experiment’ does not use div, id, span, or class to render the layout. Not even with the addition of WP 1.5 powering it (my WP blog has been using a version of the same method for about 6 months). Although I am very late in getting around to 1.5, I absolutely cannot say enough about the use of themes. I love ’em! It made it so easy for me to strip out everything to bare bones using the theme templates rather than tear through the php modules. The whole install took about an hour from start to finish. And to think that all this time I’ve been hacking away at 1.2 on my blog. Sheesh! Coming soon…my blog upgrading as well. ??

    So comment away here or there about the No Div method and it’s new set of 1.5 Strayhorn legs. We need some members to make the Web Ring a true ‘ring’ (so far I think I’m the only one…?)

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  • aside from that, no divs, span and so on. That’s just quality

    I am sure that the content could be marked up with dl. Might need to hack about in the php mysql dungeons though ?? Well in some applications you would ??

    Thread Starter kiddeath91

    (@kiddeath91)

    Root and RustIndy,

    Although I haven’t tried, what you are suggesting (content before dl) has to be possible to accomplish with CSS. I think it has to do with putting the content first and then declaring a negative margin on the dl? Sorry but I haven’t considered this option until now. My dl list has been so small, I typically didn’t need a skip link to jump over it visually even in a handheld browser! ??

    A good point – sometimes the sidebar is too short to make it necessary to provide a skip link or place it after the content in the source.

    It is definitely possible with CSS. Negative margins are one way, but I personally haven’t experimented much with them. So far the only site I’ve designed (such as it is) that adheres to my own preaching is digitalrights.ca and it’s done simply with floats and some creative positioning. I even got it to keep both posting sections in order in the source ??

    Course I haven’t really road-tested it much yet, so who knows if anything’s broken in that one…

    pretty sweet there, Kiddeath91. i like it!

    just noticed the link to your zen design.. i remember seeing that awhile ago… really took me back to ‘the day’. lol. but, ahem, your favicon looks more like an ATARI logo ??

    kiddeath91 — mucho bien!

    tg

    Thread Starter kiddeath91

    (@kiddeath91)

    @ Rust, I like the digitalrights page. I tried using positioning with this method but that gets pretty tough to do without parent divs or wrappers of some sort.

    @ Ernie, LOL. I guess it does kind of look a little like the Atari logo. I’ve been using that symbol for years for my initials. Ever since I had a Commodore 64, I think :]

    @ Techgnome – TG I’m glad the defined background color worked for you. By chance, was the ‘default blue’ you were getting due to your own user defined style sheets?? If so, I hadn’t considered that and will note it in the page…

    @ everyone. Thanks for the positive feedback. Anyone else?

    If we put the content first and float right with the right width, then the menu will fill the gap if we give it a margin. No extra markup needed. The clearer might be tricky.

    No, it isn’t a custom CSS at all, but a feature of the webbrowser itself. Using Firefox, under General Options -> Fonts & Colors, I set the default background from white to blue.

    Tg

    Thread Starter kiddeath91

    (@kiddeath91)

    @ Root: I briefly tried to do what you are suggesting. I’m not really paying a lot of attention, but the dl is not ‘filling the gap’ as should be expected. BTW How does one contact you? Can’t find anything at your site… infoATjasonspageDOTnet.

    @tg: Thanks for the info.

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