Number of editor issues in 5.02

Video of issues here: times are on the screen timer.

0:25 No text bar.
1:16 highlighted text not italicizing when italics button pushed
3:30 One of the many times the text bar gets in the way of accessing the bottom of the next block to add blocks etc.
5:20 Cant change text block to html to make an underlined piece of text. Should be able to change text to html block using standard functionality to change blocks into other blocks.

Control U fails – doesn’t underline.
No way to add coloured word to a sentence

@otto42 – haven’t seen any replies to this where there are a number of issues in the editor highlighted, including bars missing and faulty selection issues. Is it likely to be addressed or left as not important like other issues?

Why are you pinging me about this?

If you’re having issues, then maybe trying to figure out why you’re having those issues.

From looking at your video, I’m not understanding why you have everything in a single block. Did you try using separate blocks for separate things?

As per suggestions made in other posts on the forum, I copied my text into a text editor to clear any html / word entities (as Gutenberg doesn’t handle those properly now) and pasted it into the editor.

Are you telling me I cant paste text into the Gutenberg editor?

Also the suggestion to sort out the issues – when the bar fails to show or clicking and adding italics fails, what am I meant to sort out? I’m doing what I am meant to do – it is a fault in the Gutenberg editor – thus the post looking to report the issues. You keep asking people to clearly demonstrate issues they are having. I did. There is an issue with the bar not showing and also issues with italics after removing a URL bar. Demonstrated clearly and with video evidence.

How would you expect me to try to sort out the issues where the editor doesn’t respond to italics being clicked or the bar keeps going missing?

• This reply was modified 5 years, 11 months ago by webkiwinz.

Actually, pasting works great. And no, you don’t need to clear those Word entities, the new editor converts them correctly for the most part.

Are you getting any javascript errors in the console? Did you try turning off your other plugins? What debugging have you done to try to solve the problems?

When you’re saying that basic functionality errors exist, then did you consider that they only exist for you? Because the problems you’re finding are not happening for me or most other people. So, I would suggest that you debug your problem and try to find the root cause. Because it’s not the editor that’s broken here. Those things you’re pointing out don’t happen normally. The bar doesn’t disappear, italics work fine, switching to HTML works for any block.

I grant you, underline and the inline color changing are indeed missing, however, that is intentional. Those features are no longer supported.

But mainly, looking at your video, I’m not understanding why you put a list and extra paragraphs all into a single block. Yes, okay, you pasted it in, but why did you paste it in? Why not type it in directly? The editor is an *editor*. You can type into it.

That list should be in a list block, and if you had pasted it in with the formatting intact, it probably would have been put into one. Each separate thing should be its own block. Try pasting in the original thing instead. See what changes. Experiment a bit.

(BTW, to edit any block as HTML, click the 3 dots menu, then select “Edit as HTML”.)

>Actually, pasting works great. And no, you don’t need to clear those Word entities, the new editor converts them correctly for the most part.

No it doesn’t. There are a number of open issues where Word pasting breaks formatting as Gutenberg does not handle importing from Word like the old editor did and importing tables has a serious bug where empty cells get removed from the tables imported.

Table: https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/11547
Word paste: https://www.ads-software.com/support/topic/wordpress-5-0-adds-mistakes-hides-tools-what-a-pain/

In fact YOU STATED there are issues here: https://www.ads-software.com/support/topic/pasting-text-includes-style-rules-and-information/ but now are saying there are now not issues?

>But mainly, looking at your video, I’m not understanding why you put a list and extra paragraphs all into a single block. Yes, okay, you pasted it in, but why did you paste it in? Why not type it in directly? The editor is an *editor*. You can type into it.

It’s simple. Gutenberg is a block editor not a word processor or text editor. It is inefficient to type into as it keeps requiring lots of clicks and menus to add a new paragraph. The old editor, all a new paragraph took was to hit the enter key. Gutenberg is significantly slower to use than the classic editor. Check out the comparison videos – they show the same process in the classic editor and the new editor – there is a significant increase in time required to do simple jobs in Gutenberg over the classic editor.

Also why would I retype stuff I have already got in electronic format? That’s inefficient and adds errors.

As for errors on my side. It is interesting that the same computer on the same site, with the same plugins (other than classic editor turned off) has heaps of problems in Gutenberg but as soon as I revert to the classic editor (using the classic plugin) works perfectly. That makes the issues Gutenbergs – not mine as all other variables are the same.

It is inefficient to type into as it keeps requiring lots of clicks and menus to add a new paragraph. The old editor, all a new paragraph took was to hit the enter key.

Where are you getting these ideas from?

If you want to type in a new paragraph, you hit enter and keep typing. It’s no different. You don’t have to touch the mouse at all. You don’t have to click a menu. You just, you know, type.

And yes, pasting from Word is a problem (many of those issues were fixed in 5.0.2), but it was much the same problem in the old editor. Actually, the new editor is much better at pasting from Word than the old one was, because now it actually keeps and converts some of the formatting instead of going to extra effort to remove it. That’s why the old editor had a special “Paste from Word” button, because using that button would add in extra effort to remove all that formatting stuff from Word documents.

It seems to me that you’re going out of your way to invent problems here. I’m not saying it’s perfect, but I am saying that it’s better.

>It seems to me that you’re going out of your way to invent problems here. I’m not saying it’s perfect, but I am saying that it’s better.

and you wonder why people are unahappy with WordPress’ reposnses? I try a straight comparison between Classic and Gutenberg, run into a bunch of issue snad it is MY fault? IM inventing issues?

dude have you read the issues people are facing .. oh wait you have … you are in some of those discussions. Are they inventing issues? Is it possible Gutenberg is 100% perfect and all the people with issues are screwed up histrionics with delusions and psychosis?

I’m not the only one with the same issues.
I took time to provide a video screen capture of the issues and not just whinge in general – but provide information the devs can act on. Now it seems I’m making stuff up. Wow – I’ll get Peter Jackson to hire me on as his CGI expert in his next block buster.

I cant paste tables and have them work, the pasting of the text went awfully (demonstrated in the video) there are functions missing and it is a slow PITN to use – taking twice as long to edit basic text. I didn’t make that up and neither do the dozens of others who have struggled with Gutenberg.

Hi WP, is there any reason or way to prevent the fields (when I’m trying to edit a post) from jumping around? The editor seems to behave very weirdly. It appears that I get to spend a lot of time learning and experimenting to get things back working correctly. No problem.

How do I provide screenshots?
Example: “This block has encountered an error and cannot be previewed.”

This occurred after updating to the latest version of WP.

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Thanks.

• This reply was modified 5 years, 6 months ago by dplsurve.