• I new to WP and using rename to clean up an existing small site. When I rename a file that has a starting filename that has the suffix “-scaled”, where WP shows an “original filename” in the side panel, after the rename the original filename is changed but clicking on the link generates a 404 error.

    Possibly I’m tripping this up in my process, but it is definitely a user trap if I am. Being new to WP, I simply changed the filename to what I wanted and deleted the “-scaled” suffix. WP appended the “-scaled” suffix to the saved filename, as I’ve read since I saw that that it does when the image is too wide. I wonder if I left the “-scaled” suffix on the filename if the issue might be avoided, but I haven’t tried uploaded a new file.

    I’m running LocalWP, though that should not matter. The site has the following plugins:
    Classic Editor
    Duplicate Page
    Enable Media Replace (deactivated)
    Envato Market
    Goodlayers Core
    Goodlayers Portfolio Post Type
    Location Weather
    Ninja Forms
    Phoenix Media Rename
    Site Kit by Google
    Slider Revolution

    Thanks!

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  • Plugin Author crossi72

    (@crossi72)

    Hi @carnelianwoods,
    the -scaled suffix is automatically added by WordPress in version 5.3 and Phoenix Media Rename can’t delete the suffix (this would cause a conflict with the original file, which is still on your server).

    Here you can find a complete description of this feature and the code to disable it, if you disable this feature WordPress will stop to create a scaled version of each big image you will upload: https://make.www.ads-software.com/core/2019/10/09/introducing-handling-of-big-images-in-wordpress-5-3/

    Hope this helps!
    C.

    Thread Starter carnelianwoods

    (@carnelianwoods)

    I understand that WP adds the “-scaled” suffix and does its work. Thanks.

    The problem is that the original filename in the side panel is now also “-scaled” and a version of the file without “-scaled” not longer exists in the uploads folder. Clicking on the original filename link then generates a 404 error. Adding the file type to the url allows access to the file, but it is still the “-scaled” file. So it looks like the original is permanently lost.

    My guess is
    – the new filename is captured after “-scaled” is added and all files with the old base name (with or without “-scaled”) are renamed to the new name with “-scaled”. This loses the “original” unscaled file.
    – the “original filename” field is updated to the new filename with “-scaled” instead of just the base filename. The “original” unscaled file is lost above, though, so there would be no file of this unscaled name still existing.
    – when updating the “original filename” that the file type is being lost.

    Plugin Author crossi72

    (@crossi72)

    I’ll check this immediately, I didn’t change filename management in the last versions, but I could have introduced an error in some other way.

    Thank you for your help addressing this issue.

    C.

    Plugin Author crossi72

    (@crossi72)

    I confirm the issue in the last version: the original filename is not renamed (the file is still on the server, but with the old name)

    I’ll fix this as soon as possible!
    C.

    Plugin Author crossi72

    (@crossi72)

    I just released version 3.9.1 that partially fixes this issue: now all the files are renamed, but the original file remains on the server.

    I hope to complete the correction tomorrow, in the meantime Phoenix Media Rename will not generate 404s when renaming large images.

    C.

    Thread Starter carnelianwoods

    (@carnelianwoods)

    Note that I was incorrect that the original unscaled image file was lost, at least on the two test files I tracked down. These had radically different filenames (originals were a long sequence of hex digits) and were hard to track down.

    I went through a sequence of operations below to test the behavior of 3.9.0 and 3.9.1 and more fully document the problem. Note that I don’t see any difference in behavior in the upload folder. There are other issues, however, see below.

    —–

    Phoenix File Rename 3.9.0 and 3.9.1

    First, upload a file with too much resolution.

    Upload Folder Before Rename
    Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge-AAAxBBB.gif (eleven files)
    Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge-scaled.gif
    Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge.gif
    Displayed “Original image”: Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge.gif

    Filename box entered:
    Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge-first-scaled
    Click Update

    Upload Folder After Rename
    Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge-AAAxBBB.gif (eleven files)
    lawn-and-flowers-at-lodge-first-scaled-AAAxBBB.gif (eleven files)
    lawn-and-flowers-at-lodge-first-scaled.gif
    Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge.gif
    Displayed “Original image”: lawn-and-flowers-at-lodge-first-scaled (no file type extension)

    Issues:

    • original thumbnails not renamed (separate issue?)
    • thumbnails are “-scaled”
    • new filename forced to lower case (not what was entered)
    • Displayed “Original image” filename has “-scaled” and no file type extension. Clicking link generates a 404 error because of missing extension.
    • old original filename (unscaled) is not renamed

    If I now click update with no changes, there are no changes. (expected)

    If I now delete the “-scaled” from the filename and click update, I get:
    Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge-AAAxBBB.gif (eleven files)
    lawn-and-flowers-at-lodge-first-scaled-AAAxBBB.gif (eleven files)
    lawn-and-flowers-at-lodge-first-1-scaled-AAAxBBB.gif (eleven files)
    lawn-and-flowers-at-lodge-first-1-scaled.gif
    Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge.gif

    A “-1” is added by the system to the filename to resolve a duplicate name conflict, but should it? Removing the “-scaled” that will be added back by the system is not really a filename change. If removing “-scaled” is the only change to the filename then Phoenix File Rename should do nothing.

    Clicking Delete Permanently from the Media Library deletes all of the renamed files, including the thumbnails, but not the original file or original thumbnails that did not get renamed. Something in the system can determine the thumbnails associated with the original image so I’d expect that Phoenix File Rename could do that rename correctly also.

    I hope the above is useful.

    Plugin Author crossi72

    (@crossi72)

    It is extremely useful ??

    The suffix -1 is added to avoid the name conflict, but this is a Phoenix Media Rename option, so you can disable this feature.

    I’ll dig into this problem as soon as possible.

    Thank you for your help!
    C.

    Thread Starter carnelianwoods

    (@carnelianwoods)

    For the “Serialize filename if it exists” in options, the example shows only a numeral added, e.g., “phoenix.png” to “phoenix1.png”. My test had a dash also added, e.g. to “phoenix-1.png”.

    In any event, I don’t have the option checked, so either it is active without the checkmark or something else is adding the “-1”. Note that if I upload a file with the same name twice (no Phoenix File Renamed used), a “-1” is added on upload the second time, so possibly this is WordPress doing the work.

    Plugin Author crossi72

    (@crossi72)

    You’re right: if you upload a file with a name already present in the upload folder, WordPress adds a progressive number to the filename to avoid conflicts.

    C.

    Plugin Author crossi72

    (@crossi72)

    I’m testing version 4.0.0 on my development server, and it seems that now the full process of renaming a scaled file is running without issues.

    If all the tests will be passed, I will release the new version on next Tuesday because I will be busy with some courses until Tuesday and I prefer not to release an update when I can’t act quickly if someone finds some major issue.

    C.

    Thread Starter carnelianwoods

    (@carnelianwoods)

    Does the new major version number indicate significant new features? Or incompatible changes? I haven’t noticed if you supply APIs. Are you familiar with semver.org (Semantic Versioning, mostly for APIs)?

    After this is fixed, how do I get the dozen or so scaled images I have to restore WP’s “original image” to the correct (not scaled) file?

    Plugin Author crossi72

    (@crossi72)

    I rewrote the renaming procedure, but you’re right: the correct version number is 3.10.0, so I will release the new version with this number.

    I don’t use semver logic for numbering releases but a similar one, I preferer to increment minor version number even if I’ve made a deep and sensible change in the code (this is the case, because most of the renaming process has been rewrote).

    I support integration APIs, you can find the documentation here: https://www.eurosoftlab.com/en/phoenix-media-rename/#code

    Let me know if the issue persists on your server.
    C.

    Thread Starter carnelianwoods

    (@carnelianwoods)

    Still very broken. Original image filename is handled better, but the code is more broken. I’ll post a suggested fix in another post.Here is the test sequence, as above:

    First, upload a file with too much resolution.

    Upload Folder Before Rename
    Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge-AAAxBBB.gif (eleven files)
    Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge-scaled.gif
    Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge.gif
    Displayed “Original image”: Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge.gif

    Upload Folder After Rename
    Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge-AAAxBBB.gif (eleven files)
    lawn-and-flowers-at-lodge-first-scaled-AAAxBBB.gif (eleven files)
    lawn-and-flowers-at-lodge-first-scaled-scaled.gif
    lawn-and-flowers-at-lodge-first-scaled.gif

    Displayed “Original image” after rename: Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge-first-scaled.gif
    Filename after rename: lawn-and-flowers-at-lodge-first-scaled-scaled.gif

    Issues:

    • original thumbnails not renamed (should be renamed)
    • renamed thumbnails are “-scaled” (should not have “-scaled” in name)
    • new filename forced to lower case (should not change case)
    • full resolution file name is in lower case and “-scaled” (should be renamed in the entered case and no “-scaled”)
    • displayed “Original image” filename has “-scaled” (should not have “-scaled”)
    • filename entry field is now lowercase and “-scaled-scaled” (should only have one “-scaled”)

    Changed behaviors from prior version:

    • full resolution file is now renamed, but incorrectly
    • scaled file is now named “-scaled-scaled”
    • displayed “Original image” is renamed properly caps and lowers as entered, has a file type, and link works (but still has “-scaled”).

    If I now click update with no changes, there are no changes. (expected)

    If I now delete the “-scaled-scaled” from the filename and click update, I get:
    Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge-AAAxBBB.gif (eleven files)
    lawn-and-flowers-at-lodge-first-scaled-AAAxBBB.gif (eleven files)
    lawn-and-flowers-at-lodge-first-1-scaled-AAAxBBB.gif (eleven files)
    lawn-and-flowers-at-lodge-first-1-scaled.gif
    lawn-and-flowers-at-lodge-first.gif

    Displayed “Original image” after rename: lawn-and-flowers-at-lodge-first.gif
    Filename after rename: lawn-and-flowers-at-lodge-first-1-scaled.gif

    Issues:

    • Issues as above
    • A “-1” is added by the system to the filename to resolve a duplicate name conflict. Removing the “-scaled” that will be added back by the system is not a filename change. If removing “-scaled” is the only change to the filename then Phoenix File Rename should do nothing.

    Clicking Delete Permanently from the Media Library deletes all of the renamed files, including the thumbnails, but not prior thumbnails that did not get renamed. Something in the system can determine the thumbnails associated with the original image so I’d expect that Phoenix File Rename could do that rename correctly also.

    Starting with a new upload again:
    Upload Folder Before Rename
    Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge-AAAxBBB.gif (eleven files)
    Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge-scaled.gif
    Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge.gif
    Displayed “Original image”: Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge.gif

    Edit filename to remove only “-scaled” from name.

    Upload Folder After Rename
    Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge-AAAxBBB.gif (eleven files)
    lawn-and-flowers-at-lodge-1-scaled.gif

    Displayed “Original image” after rename: Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge.gif
    Filename after rename: Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge.gif

    ERROR box:
    “File renaming error! Tried to copy /Users/george/Local Sites/carnelian-woods/app/public/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge.gif to /Users/george/Local Sites/carnelian-woods/app/public/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Lawn-and-Flowers-at-Lodge.gif”

    Issues:

    • thumbnails not created
    • original image lost
    • plugin is forcing filename to lower case
    • rename is attempted when it will have no effect as system will add “-scaled” back.

    Thread Starter carnelianwoods

    (@carnelianwoods)

    I think almost all of these issues will be fixed with:

    • don’t force filename to lower case
    • preg_replace(‘/-scaled$/’, ”, $filename) used to strip “-scaled” from the entered filename before doing anything else. Use the result as the new filename in the remainder of the code.
    • use the regex above on the original file name and the entered filename to decide if it has changed. If no change, do nothing.

    Not sure what to do with the thumbnail issue. You can probably use a regex to find the thumbnails, maybe as a settings option, if it seems they are not registered. Not clear why the system can delete them if they are not registered. Look at the WP source? I found a place in the GoodLayers plugin settings where some of the thumbnail sizes that appear are set, but it and the WP settings were not all the thumbnail sizes.

    Hope this helps.

    Plugin Author crossi72

    (@crossi72)

    Hi @carnelianwoods,
    this helps a lot ??

    There is an option in Phoenix Media Rename to force lowercase in file names, you can disable it to maintain the case you entered, in any case the logic to check if filename is already present is case insensitive, to avoid problem with case insensitive file systems.

    I’m working to fix the issue you reported, I’m sorry this issue is not yet resolved.

    Thank you for your help
    C.

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