• Resolved Haaike

    (@haaike)


    Hello,

    for some time I happen to have a very irritating problem with my pictures: they seem to have uploaded perfectly, are visible for some time and then all of a sudden just aren’t visible anymore. Eg. this post (https://lepetitrequin.com/maand-in-woord-en-beeld-september-2019-1/) was published about a week ago, all pictures were visible (which I’m sure of since some people reacted so specifically that they must have seen it ?? ). Two days ago I all of a sudden get a reaction that the pictures aren’t visible, so I insert them again. They are visible for a day and now they’re invisible again.
    I always insert pictures from a URL, that I copy out of my picture folders in Google Photos (eg. in case of the above mentioned post, they come from the folder 2019_Project 365 (https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOTJY_Yt1ofkwPNdy6IHAJSTiz9T9MAjVa938-IJp-hrI10OuDSfO63HOmR_QQeJQ?key=VmpVaTRPaHlQVkZfVERhWnhyQVBTMUpGbVBFejhB). I have checked the settings of all folders that I use for my blog and they are all “shared with people who have the link”. So that isn’t the cause of the problem (if it would be, the pictures would never be visible). Then again, in Chrome, where I’m logged in in Google, I can always see the pictures. In Explorer or Firefox, where I’m not logged in, they are sometimes visible, sometimes unvisible. Strange thing is that it doesn’t always happen, so I can have two posts with pictures from the same Google folder and not have any problems with one post and having to reinsert my pictures 3 times, because they keep disappearing, in the other post.
    I have tried inserting the pictures directly in the media library that wordpress provides, but the problem happened there as well. Since I find the media library very chaotic to work with and it didn’t solve the problem, I returned to the old way of inserting them from an URL.

    Does anyone have an idea as to why this happens? And even better: how I can solve it? Cause it drives me nuts to have to insert some pictures five times and still not be sure they will keep being visible…

    Thanks!
    Haaike

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  • I’m wondering if those five-mile-long URLs from Google are any part of the problem?

    I live in a small town and those URLs stretch all the way north to the next town up the road where my cousins live.

    If you wish to use the WordPress media folder then you’ll want your images to end with a recognizable file type such as ‘jpg’, ‘gif’, or ‘png’. And you sure don’t want to push things too far with those URL lengths there. If nothing else that wastes your database space.

    As to using Google for serving images, that’s probably fine but if you insist on doing that then you must bear the responsibility to support or find support outside of WordPress and/or your own hosting for the proper ways to ‘call’ those images and that service may not be capable of serving images reliably. You’ll need to discuss that with Google.

    Another thought is those images will never be able to take advantage of your own resources like caches, proxies, and maybe a CDN in the future as they are hosted outside of your own server.

    As a matter of fact, that could cause some issues when something within your web host attempts to work with your images and can’t or the visitor’s browser loses track of the image when it tries to cache the image itself.

    The bottom line is I don’t believe this is a WordPress issue at all as you’ve taken the images away from WordPress and your own hosting solution.

    Thread Starter Haaike

    (@haaike)

    Since no solution is offered (or not one that helps me in any way, because as I said before: I have the problem as well when I put my pictures directly in the WordPress Media Library, so how is that not a WordPress issue?) I want the start post edited, so my links can be removed.

    • This reply was modified 5 years, 5 months ago by Haaike.
    • This reply was modified 5 years, 5 months ago by Haaike.

    Since no solution is offered (or not one that helps me in any way, because as I said before: I have the problem as well when I put my pictures directly in the WordPress Media Library, so how is that not a WordPress issue?) I want the start post edited, so my links can be removed.

    You asked for help and I gave you what I could.

    The bottom line is I still don’t believe this is a WordPress issue at all as you’ve taken the images away from WordPress and your own hosting solution.

    I did mention the long file names and the lack of a proper image file extension for the Media Library if you do decide to go back to try that again.

    The other ideas and thoughts I proposed are to ‘Give your WordPress install half a chance’!

    With this thread still available you might find someone else will have more or better thoughts on this problem. Give them a chance to chime in also. I can be wrong or off-base.

    I can’t edit your post for you but I’ll mention your request to one of the mods here where they will help you or explain the policies here about that subject.

    Thread Starter Haaike

    (@haaike)

    Sorry if I misunderstood; it seemed you were just laughing with the long URLs and immediately pushing the problem away from this forum.
    The ones I have in the Media Library are this size: https://domainname.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/picturename.jpg
    So no issues with long file names or image file extension there, but the problem still remained, which is why I quit using the media library again (if only it would have the possiblity to have different folders and subfolders, so I can more easily find pictures back if I want to insert them in a second/third post…). But anyway, reasons why I don’t like the Media library are not relevant here, since the issue remains, whether I import them from there (short url, file extension) or from Google.

    Moderator Steven Stern (sterndata)

    (@sterndata)

    Volunteer Forum Moderator

    I known this is not a helpful answer, but the site works for me. When the images do not appear, do you see any errors in the browser console when you inspect them?

    With the site working, I see

    A cookie associated with a cross-site resource at https://googleusercontent.com/ was set without theSameSiteattribute. A future release of Chrome will only deliver cookies with cross-site requests if they are set withSameSite=NoneandSecure`. You can review cookies in developer tools under Application>Storage>Cookies and see more details at https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/5088147346030592 and https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/5633521622188032.
    (index):1 A cookie associated with a cross-site resource at https://gravatar.com/ was set without the SameSite attribute. A future release of Chrome will only deliver cookies with cross-site requests if they are set with SameSite=None and Secure. You can review cookies in developer tools under Application>Storage>Cookies and see more details at https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/5088147346030592 and https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/5633521622188032.
    (index):1 A cookie associated with a cross-site resource at https://gravatar.com/ was set without the SameSite attribute. A future release of Chrome will only deliver cookies with cross-site requests if they are set with SameSite=None and Secure. You can review cookies in developer tools under Application>Storage>Cookies and see more details at https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/5088147346030592 and https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/5633521622188032.
    lh3.google.com/J3-9ak7CFHTAKxHrBG0iKWWVja6W0gGlatLL9JJTQ_72U1XtXeKmVobFiQ45YXjqUBL0WJmPlAn34u_9=s30-no:1 Failed to load resource: net::ERR_BLOCKED_BY_CLIENT`

    I’m not sure if any of that is relevant.

    If you want to go back to the WordPress Media Lbrary these plugins listed in this article might be what you want to organize those files better.

    https://ninjateam.org/best-wordpress-media-library-folders-management-plugins/

    I think the second one mentioned might really be what you want but check out the whole article before you decide.

    Thread Starter Haaike

    (@haaike)

    First of all, sorry for my late reply, two busy days at work, so no time for blog (and thus hobby) related stuff ??

    @sterndata : see, that’s the strange thing about it. I didn’t change a thing, but all of a sudden they’re back again. I just can’t rely on my pictures being visible or not… I’ll check out your suggestion if I find another post where the pictures aren’t visible; at this moment they “all” (or at least the first 15) seem ok.

    @jnashhawkins: thanks for the tip, that looks really great!

    Today I talked with somebody about it and she told me that apparently Google changes the URL of google photos regularly, which of course explains why they all of a sudden disappear, even if they were visible immediately after publishing. Why they would do that and why the pictures sometimes (as in the linked post) apparently return to the “old” link is beyond me… But anyway, she suggested using the Album Archive, since those links are definitive. I’m definitely going to check out the above mentioned suggestions to work with the media library again, but linking to the album archive would at least allow me to fix old posts without having to upload all those pictures to the media library. Still hoping that fixes it completely, since I’ve also had the problem with the media library (though less often), but we’ll see if and why that happens when it happens ??

    Thanks for the help!

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