• Resolved cutu234

    (@cutu234)


    We’ve just found very small rounding errors. That’s weird since all single numbers seem to be correct.

    See this screenshot, please:

    The total sum should be 38,60 and not 38,61.

    36,05 – 3,61 (discount) = 32,44 EUR
    32,44 / 100 + 19 = 6,16 EUR tax
    32,44 + 6,16 = 38,60

    Any ideas, what’s going on?

    We use the latest WP and Woocommerce. All plugins are the latest versions.

    • This topic was modified 9 months, 2 weeks ago by cutu234.
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  • Hey there, @cutu234! Thanks for contacting us. I’m happy to help you.

    Let me ask some questions so we can investigate this further.

    • Is this the only order that had this issue or did it happen to other orders too?
    • In case it happened to other orders, do you find any similarities between them? It can be same products, same payment method, similar address, similar prices, etc
    • On your screenshot you added a 3,60 below the discount. Do you mean that the discount was calculated incorrectly too?
    • Can you please share a screenshot of what you see on WooCommerce > Settings > General > Currency options

    Furthermore, I’d like to understand your site properly. Please share with us the necessary information below for us to investigate the issue further:

    System Status Report which you can find via WooCommerce > Status > Get system report > Copy for support.
    Fatal error logs (if any) under WooCommerce > Status > Logs. Then you can use the selector to search for Fatal Errors.
    You could copy and paste your reply here or paste it via https://gist.github.com/ and send the link here.

    Looking forward to your reply.

    Have a wonderful day!

    Thread Starter cutu234

    (@cutu234)

    Hi there,
    thank you very much for the fast reply. Very much appreciated!

    This problem seems to happen to all orders with the exception of the following payment methods that seem to work perfectly fine: invoice, bank transfer.

    On your screenshot you added a 3,60 below the discount. Do you mean that the discount was calculated incorrectly too?

    No, these are just some personal notes that doesn’t matter here.

    Here’s the screenshot of the currency options:

    We see some critical errors due to not enough PHP memory. We can’t really do anything about it, since the site runs on the maximum value of 512M. Have no idea why this would not be enough.

    Here’s the status report:

    
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    • This reply was modified 9 months, 2 weeks ago by cutu234.
    Thread Starter cutu234

    (@cutu234)

    We’ve just looked deeper into this extremely difficult issue. It’s almost certain that it does only happen to orders with a standard discount coupon applied. Actually, we can find wrong numbers in the database.

    Here is an example. One specific product is 38,90 including 19% VAT. So, the net price is: 38,90/119*100 = 32,6890756302521. We offer a discount of 20%:

    32,6890756302521 – 6,53781512605042 = 26,1512605042017

    What I find in the wp_wc_order_product_lookup table: The product net revenue is calculated correctly: 26,15. The coupon amount, on the other hand, is saved as 6.537816. While this minor error shouldn’t change very much, it is simply wrong rounding. The “6” at the end should be “5”.

    • This reply was modified 9 months, 1 week ago by cutu234.
    • This reply was modified 9 months, 1 week ago by cutu234.
    • This reply was modified 9 months, 1 week ago by cutu234.
    Thread Starter cutu234

    (@cutu234)

    Here’s the next strange thing. In the following screenshot you can see the individual dicounts:

    6,54 + 0,66 + 20,99 sum up to 28,19. The correct sum, however, is 28,18:

    Don’t get me wrong. Personally, I do not care about 1 cent, but our inventory control system does. All incorrect orders have to changed manually which is uper time-consuming.

    Hey, @cutu234!

    Thank you for this detailed investigation. I understand how important it is to solve this and we will do our best to help you solve it as soon as possible.

    Can you please update WooCommerce to the latest version (8.6.1) along with anything else that needs updating?

    Are you using the regular WooCommerce coupons or a third-party plugin? I see you have Discount plugins activated.

    Can you please run a conflict test to see if the issue persists?

    To test, you’ll first want to change the theme on your site to Storefront, then you’ll want to deactivate all plugins except for WooCommerce and make some test orders. If that fixes the problem, re-enable the other plugins one by one (gradually), checking after each, to see where the issue is coming from.

    — Be sure you have a good backup in place of your full site and database. You can ask your host for backup functionality or you can consider using a service like Jetpack. If something goes wrong, you will be able to restore it.

    — Also, you can consider using a plugin like Health Check & Troubleshooting. This is a plugin developed by the WordPress community and it is helpful to disable plugins without affecting your current site visitors.

    — It is important to consider as well a staging functionality in case you would not like to touch your production site (you can ask your host if they offer this service), or you can use WP Staging for quickly spinning up a new test site.

    You can find more about this in this guide.

    Please let us know about your findings.

    Looking forward to your reply.

    Have a wonderful day!

    Thread Starter cutu234

    (@cutu234)

    Hi there,
    thank you very much for the input. Troubleshooting is always a bitch in a live shop. ??

    However, I think that I found something. We use the standard Woocommerce discount feature. Nothing special here. It seems that the rounding to 2 digits yields to this problem. Let me give you an example:

    A product is 42,90 incl. VAT. We apply a discount of 10%. Net price after discount:
    32,4453781512605
    Total incl. VAT:
    32,4453781512605/100*119 = 38,61

    Now, let’s take the same order calculating it with only 2 digits:

    32,45/100*119 = 38,6155 = 38,62

    We have two roundings: the first one was calculated after the discount was applied and the second one after VAT was included. This results in a difference of 1 cent.

    The problem: the numbers are stored with only 2 digits in the database. This is the value that is submitted to Paypal, for example and then to the inventory control system. The system gets two different values: 38,61 from Woocommerce and 38,62 from the payment API. These orders are blocked for automatic processing and have to changed manually.

    If more products were purchased, the rounding errors might compensate each other or might even get worse. This is why some orders are perfectly fine, while others are off.

    With no discount, no rounding is applied, of course.

    Any idea how to fix this?

    • This reply was modified 9 months, 1 week ago by cutu234.
    Thread Starter cutu234

    (@cutu234)

    To sum it up more clearly: I could change the number of digits on the general settings page. This would then store the numbers with, say, 6 digits in the database. But I don’t want to show 6 digits in the shop or in the emails, of course. That would look silly.

    Is there a workaround for this?

    • This reply was modified 9 months, 1 week ago by cutu234.
    Thread Starter cutu234

    (@cutu234)

    By the way, this is by no means a new problem. It was posted 2019 on Github. So, it is not resolved after more than 4 years?

    I think we can boil it down to one single problem: Rounding should never be applied on a subitem level. In addition to that: The number of digits in the database should be seperated from the format shown on the frontend.

    Hi there @cutu234 ??

    Thank you for reaching back, with further details on this.

    By the way, this is by no means a new problem. It was posted 2019 on Github. So, it is not resolved after more than 4 years?

    Please note, the issue linked here was marked as closed on 2019, and then changes were merged in 2021.

    To sum it up more clearly: I could change the number of digits on the general settings page. This would then store the numbers with, say, 6 digits in the database. But I don’t want to show 6 digits in the shop or in the emails, of course. That would look silly.

    Let’s go ahead with isolating this further. So far, from what I gather, these parameters come into play:

    • price rounding
    • discount coupon
    • number of digits

    I understand with 2 digits, and without a discount coupon, there is no issue. Correct?

    Would having 1 decimal number, at the store, instead, be an option or otherwise?

    Otherwise, could the discount be other than percentage-based, perhaps?

    We look forward to your response. In the meantime, please let us know if you have any further questions or concerns.

    Thread Starter cutu234

    (@cutu234)

    OK, I think we found a solution. We can set the general settings to 6 digits and use this snippet to show only 2 digits on the frontend, in emails etc.

    add_filter('wc_price_args', 'wc_force_decimals_for_price_display');
    function wc_force_decimals_for_price_display($args)
    {
        if (isset($args['force_decimals'])) {
            $args['decimals'] = $args['force_decimals'];
        } else {
            $args['decimals'] = 2;
        }
        return $args;
    }

    This seems to work just fine.

    However, you should really implement this feature so that digits can be set seperately for the database and the frontend. Actually, it is never a good idea to store values with 2 digits only. This is a recipe for trouble.

    I know that this is probably not a big deal in the US. However, tax calulation is a pain in the neck in Europe. It gets even worse if you use an external system for inventory, receipts etc. like we do.

    Why not making the wc_price_args filter available in the dashboard? This would be a great solution and could be implemented easily, I guess.

    Thread Starter cutu234

    (@cutu234)

    I cheered too soon. Now we have a very high rate of pending orders with Paypal because of some “amount mismatch.”

    With 6 digits, the calculation is even worse. See this screenshot please. The numbers are correctly stored in the database but don’t add up:

    54,90 – 8,24 is NOT 46,67 but 46,66, of course.

    What now?

    Hey, @cutu234!

    Thank you for all the troubleshooting and information you shared.

    Do you mind sharing screenshots of how you set up things on your site so we can run some tests and try to replicate this issue on our end so we can investigate this further?

    We would need to see:

    • VAT settings
    • Coupon settings
    • Product price settings (of one of the products you had the issue with)

    I recommend using https://snipboard.io. You can share the direct link to the image as a response to this topic. Please remove any sensitive information before sharing them.

    Looking forward to your reply.

    Have a wonderful day!

    Thread Starter cutu234

    (@cutu234)

    Thank you very much. Your effort is very much appreciated!

    Here are the tax settings.

    Here are the typical settings for the coupons:

    https://snipboard.io/v5fJny.jpg

    https://snipboard.io/kC1hlD.jpg

    No further restrictions.

    Here is a typical product:

    https://snipboard.io/fuqwzy.jpg

    However, this can happen with all products.

    Thread Starter cutu234

    (@cutu234)

    I simply don’t understand how the rounding errors can happen even with 6 digits stored in the database. The only pattern I can see is a coupon applied. It seems to me that the calculation is performed with rounded values. Depending on the original price this can result in a difference of 1 cent.

    Hey, @cutu234!

    Thank you for the information.

    I was able to replicate this on my website.

    The orders were updated automatically, but I was able to see the rounding issue.

    I have opened a GitHub report so we can investigate this further. If you want to be updated about it you can follow it here.

    We are doing our best to fix it as soon as possible.

    We can’t specify a date when the bug will be fixed, it is still in progress. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you, and we thank you for your patience.

    Please let us know if there’s anything else we can do to help or if you have any questions.

    Have a wonderful day!

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