• Resolved peopleinside

    (@peopleinside)


    Hi,
    I hope this message find you well.

    After the last update of your plugin spam is delivered to mailbox.
    i use forminator forms and i set up your plugin to save, for some days spam messages but also good messages. Your plugin is delivering spam without show that spam as spam and also never showing as good messages!

    With the last plugin update spam are delivered to the email box and to fominator form.

    I start to get spam email from forminator and that messages are not showed in your plugin in spam and also in successfully saved message but spam reach the form submission with success and is delivered by email.

    This is a terrible situation, why this are happening? I need revert back to the previous version, the new version is delivering spam. I hope you can explain how to avoid this or find what is wrong in this new version.

    The plugin was working so good, now spam are delivered and even, your plugin is not showing this message in spam and also in good messages.

    • This topic was modified 9 months, 2 weeks ago by peopleinside.
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  • Thread Starter peopleinside

    (@peopleinside)

    What happened: your plugin seems has recently updated.
    Since a very long time that your plugin captured 100% of spam, today from different websites that run your plugin, I start to get spam delivered. Something very bad to see and this seems related to your recent update.

    What I can see is that the spam message has been delivered in forminator form and this never happened before and is happening on more websites.

    What also expect if your plugin is working well is to find in your plugin messages section, this spam messages that was not spam for your plugin but no messages are listed in Messages. The delivered spam message is not there and is not also in the spam section of your plugin.

    I want having back the good plugin that was in the previous version, the new one is delivering spam and seems is not working correctly.

    I’m replacing in all websites the version 3.6.4 with 3.6.3 and renaming in the plugin the version to be the latest one and prevent WordPress to update it. I hope you will be able to figure out why.. your plugin is not working well as before and is delivering spam. This is the first time your plugin stopped to protect well from the spam. Is not a good sensation and experience.

    • This reply was modified 9 months, 2 weeks ago by peopleinside.
    Plugin Author Matthias Nordwig

    (@matthiasnordwig)

    Ciao.

    I have fixed a bug and by that created a new one. Sorry for that!

    Now I have just fixed the new one too. But the new release has a major change:

    Some submission types up to now where checked for spam in explicit mode, even if you didn’t recognize them with a specific pattern. I have changed this behaviour, due to an erroneous behaviour with some form builders. Therefore these submission types now require for a pattern too.

    You mentioned that you cannot see them in your inbox, this should have changed with the latest release.

    Ciao, Matthias

    Thread Starter peopleinside

    (@peopleinside)

    Hi, thanks for the reply.
    I’m scared now to update.. also if the update will be done automatically from WordPress.

    what happen in the version 3.6.4 to allow spam coming in my inbox?

    I read about last change that never include anymore something that was included. Sound not very nice this change but I should be not affected by this has I have already configured the explicit mode for WordPress comment and Forminator so.. I believe I should not having issues. Thanks for explain that the change was necessary due to some plugin compatibility.

    Do you found a bug after my topic here? Was the bug that cause spam able to coming in in ox? What happened?

    I hope the new version 3.6.5 never allow spam to coming again in the inbox. There are a lot of spam bot that generate spam ?? without a spam protection mailbox can be very stressed.

    Thank you! I hope the update will work… I had to restore in all website the previous version after more then one website and messages has been delivered to inbox disturbing web admins.

    • This reply was modified 9 months, 2 weeks ago by peopleinside.
    Plugin Author Matthias Nordwig

    (@matthiasnordwig)

    Hi.

    I can understand that.

    What has happened was the following:

    Up to now, some standard types of WordPress-Post-Requests where always checked for spam, as I was thinking they are always the right choice. But it has turned out, that in some circumstances they are not. Therefore I have changed that behaviour in a way, that you now have to register a pattern for them too.

    But with the release of Yesterday I have reactivated a former bug for these standard types: In some cases these standard calls, seem to be processed on another path of application than the “pattern check”. Therefore it occured, that the superglobal $_POST which on server side represents the parameters passed by a post-calls, arrives empty at both points: The point when the patterns check is processed and the point when the message is saved. Nevertheless at this point I am setting a so called hook, that is catching the standard calls. And if they catch them the superglobal $_POST is always filled. In the past, when the respective hook was triggering the spam check was processed always. With the last released I have conditioned the call of the hook, which led to the problems that you mentioned.

    Now instead I have changed

    • that the hook is still called always,
    • but when the hook is triggering the pattern matching and the saving of the analysis messages are processed and the spam check is only processed if the respective pattern is found

    Therefore now for these types of standard calls patterns have to be formed. These calls are for instance mainly “comments” and “blog-entries”, which are two types of WordPress- standard calls.

    I hope that explanation can be understood :-). If you face problems with the 3.6.5 release, we can have a look on it during a teams session, if you like.

    Ciao, Matthias

    Thread Starter peopleinside

    (@peopleinside)

    Thank you for the help.

    Thread Starter peopleinside

    (@peopleinside)

    Spam continue to arrive also with the latest version. Again I have to navigate all websites and restore version 3.6.3.

    I hope this is not the end of my update story of this plugin.
    The update you do is causing spam to arrive in inbox, this is terrible!

    • This reply was modified 9 months, 1 week ago by peopleinside.
    Plugin Author Matthias Nordwig

    (@matthiasnordwig)

    Hi.

    With the new update you just need to enhance the scope of the spam check. If you write me an email via my website, I can help you during a teams call.

    Cheers

    Thread Starter peopleinside

    (@peopleinside)

    @matthiasnordwig your latest versions update seems broken!

    I get again spam so today I logged in my website and I reactivate the Direct analysis mode, then I go again in the forminator form

    (also if an update that you send should not reset any configurations that I had already done in the past.. and I had already done this procedure)

    I submitted the form and was present one only ajact not included, I included again and try to send a second message.

    Of two message sent no one was correctly saved in successful message section. Of two just one message was stored and was incomplete, without the forminator text I wrote.

    Restoring the plugin on version 3.6.3 works all fine and I never get spam also messages are saved correctly.

    Your latest plugin versions are broken and it’s so sad to see I’m unable to update to any next version you are releasing.

    Thread Starter peopleinside

    (@peopleinside)

    Hi @matthiasnordwig, spam received again in more then one website with the new update and procedure you know. I dont see any spam and succesfully message saved in the plugin and just successful spam message in forminator form. I’m reverting the plugin back again to protect me from spam.

    This message is just to inform you ??

    Plugin Author Matthias Nordwig

    (@matthiasnordwig)

    Evviva! ??

    Grazie mille per le informazioni. Ti auguro un buon tempo!

    ChatGPT mi ha insegnato l’italiano.

    ??

    Thread Starter peopleinside

    (@peopleinside)

    I hope in the future you will find why spam is bypassing your latest version of the plugin. If you find a fix please inform me so I can return to update and use your plugin that now, at your latest versions, are not protecting from the spam.

    Thanks again.
    I see you marked this resolved but your latest plugin is not working, I hope will be fixed in the future.

    Plugin Author Matthias Nordwig

    (@matthiasnordwig)

    Sorry, I didn’t read your mail. If it isn’t solved, it isn’t solved. I am looking out what might be the reason.

    Thread Starter peopleinside

    (@peopleinside)

    Hi Matthias,
    the last fix seems is working fine!

    Is really nice to see your plugin active to protect again spam from forminator forms.

    Thanks again for your help!

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