Sub menus are showing in main menu area

Because Aristeer4 is a Paid Theme, I am not able to test it myself on my own test systems. And the link you provided to your site points me, instead, to another Plugin in the WordPress Plugin Directory.

It would be helpful to see the problem.

However, in general terms, when using two Themes with different menus, you will need to follow the “workaround” described in detail in my plugin’s Theme Options tab on the Settings page in the Admin panels.

Sorry the paste was the wrong link. Here is the correct one:
https://nwihabitat.org/ginas-gallery/

All pages should have the identical menu. The problem is the theme that is added with your plugin does not show the menu correctly. It shows every menu item as a main item with no “Subs”.
If you go to the link I provided and then look at the Home page, the menus should be identical, but they are not.
Thank you

As I imply in the Theme Options tab, my plugin does not handle Menus and other Theme-related WordPress Options. The best I’ve been able to do, so far, is suggest some Workarounds that often work. WordPress was never designed with more than one Theme per site in mind, so odd things like you are experiencing can happen.

I did do a little research, however, and found that Artisteer does allow you to freely “distribute” the themes you have created with it. I am willing to test both your Themes on my test systems. If you are interested, contact me through https://jonradio.com/contact-us/ and we can make arrangements.

Thank you for the quick reply.
You said the plugin doesn’t handle Menu’s. A little confused here.
Shouldn’t a new theme that is added for a specific page default to the “Primary” menu structure? What I am seeing is just like changing a theme and looking at the page before you go back to “menus” and set the primary menu.

I may try setting the new page theme to the theme for the entire site, change it to primary menu, and then reset the old theme back.

Update, I was able to get the menu to work with Sub menu’s by Setting the Special Theme to the site wide theme and then setting the Menu to Primary and then go back and put the old theme back.
My only problem now is that the menu drops down to 2 lines because of it’s length. I added the code to the theme to extend the menu area but it doesn’t appear to be using it.
here is the link: https://nwirestore.org/?page_id=40

It is displaying just fine for me now. Have you made any changes since?

Most likely answer is Caching. Either in your browser, or via a WordPress plugin. Caching is like a Time Machine: it can easily show you the Past.

If you have a minute Here is a link for a new page:
https://nwihabitat.org/ginas-gallery/

This is showing all the menu items including the subs. I have cleaned cashe and still no luck. I did notice after I extended the menu to the complete page width, the page does not reflect this change.

Also I am using Firefox..

As you will see if you reduce the width of your browser, you have a theme with a fixed page width and wallpaper to fill up the rest, if any. I suspect that Artisteer considers a “complete page width” menu just the width of the fixed part, without the wallpaper, which makes sense as it would get cut off on a less wide monitor or small windowed browser.

As for the menu including subs, I looked at the HTML and it is working properly, in terms of there being some submenu items that do not appear except as dropdowns. Though I certainly understand that that is not what you had in mind. Somehow your menu definition got messed up.

We are likely now getting into the area I talked about before: WordPress not being designed for more than one theme on a site. The same may be true for Artisteer and the way it creates Themes. One Theme’s settings (Menu Settings in this case) may be stored in the same place as another Theme’s settings. I haven’t figured out how to make my plugin avoid this issue.

If you are not able to resolve things by using the steps in my workarounds in the Theme Options tab, you have two other choices:

1. See if Artisteer Support will help you, either directly or through their Forum;
2. Use a WordPress Network with one Site per Theme, and handcraft menus if you want to integrate them into a single web site.

Best I can think of, I’m afraid.

OK, I just went back and checked your last link, and the menu has been expanded, but only on the right side, though the left does appear (its blinks a bit) with a blue band on it.

As I said, I cannot afford to pay for software, so I have never seen Artisteer, but it sure sounds like an issue with it.

Thanks so much for the help. I can email you the Template zip file if you think that would help you. I also think you can download a timed trial version of Artisteer 4 if you want to see how it works. The last site you saw was WP3.6.1
I tried “Page Theme” and I get the same results with this version of WP.
I also tried your plugin in WP3.8.4 and eliminated the Sub Menu problems but the menu would still wrap to 2 lines rather than using the expanded menu area.
I am offering this information to possibly help you identify the issue.
Thank you for the quick response and effort you have provided.

I’m sorry if this comes across as uncooperative, but from everything that you have now told me, for both our sakes, I think it is important to pinpoint each problem that you are experiencing to a single piece of software, if at all possible.

My instincts tell me that the best way to do that is to create yourself a test WordPress site, either on your current web host or using one of the many ways to create a web server on your own computer. For example, I have used XAMPP in the recent past, only switching to a dedicated Linux computer because of my need to test Linux permissions issues, which XAMPP cannot do, and surely isn’t your problem.

If you do build a test system, please make it the latest version of WordPress, currently 4.0, to eliminate the chance of WordPress bugs that have been fixed in the last few versions.

Anyway, once you have a test system you can use, see if you can get each Theme separately the way you want it. Without any plugins, including mine, installed. If you still have problems, you know it is Artisteer, and can work with them to get it resolved.

I’m also saying this because I have very little experience designing and changing Themes or even CSS. Although I offer this Multiple Themes plugin, my own web sites are based on the standard WordPress themes, most recently, Twenty Fourteen.

Again, sorry to disappoint. But we have gone all over the place with this, and I’m not convinced that my plugin is causing the problems you are experiencing.

Thanks for your understanding.

You are not uncooperative at all. I appreciate the input. Funny, my next step was to use another site on the newest WP and try to create an extended menu. I will also eliminate all other plug ins to see if there is a conflict.
I appreciate the help you were able to provide. So many times it’s better than a video game, the challenge, the mystery and then the solution.
Thank you very much

Just an update that may help others. I was able to add the plugin to a WP 4.0 site and add sub menu items. The sub menu items did not appear as sub menus until I changed the default theme to my special page theme and set the menus to “Primary”.
After that I changed the default theme back to the original theme and the sub menu items appeared as they should.
I also added more menu items than would fit in the width of the page. The menu items extended past the page right side as they should. The only outstanding issue is the menu items did not start on the far left of the menu bar like they should. They start at the beginning of the page. It’s closer.

New page: https://www.1on1compucoach.com/page-2/

Re-reading your last post, I wanted to make sure that you are not waiting for a response from me.

If you are, please let me know. I’m going to mark this thread as resolved now, but I will re-open it if you have any more questions.

I have solved the right left placement of menu items but as of yet the sub menu items are still displaying just like the main menu items.
I have contacted Artisteer to see if they know what setting will fix this. It would appear just changing the new theme to active, setting the menu to primary and then changing the old them to active fixes this issue. I just wish I knew what setting was changed during this procedure. My one site has so much special coding and a child theme by another person, I don’t want to take the chance of changing the Default Theme in case I can’t get it back.
Thank you for your assistance..

Yes this should probably be closed at this time..