• Hi,

    i was looking desperately for a easy to use solution like this. First of all, i want to thank you for your fine work.

    I have some problem with the volleyball-scoring, the order of the criteria seems to be not correct.
    – the most important thing is the points you get for a win in the table
    – the second thing should be the one sets
    – the last thing thing should be the points you win during a set

    As it seems, the gravity of sets and the set-points are transposed. I have just created a test-site, where i gave in some sample data.
    https://test.nunatakker.de/?p=69

    As you can see, Trimmclub is first allthough Gerschede has a better set-ratio. Trimmclub has the same points but a better set-point-ratio.

    Do i have to choose another scoring-model?

    My settings are:
    GameType: Volleyball
    ScoringModel: 2-Point-Rule
    points-format: %d:%d / %d:%d
    Placement: automatic
    Mode: Standard

    Thank you for some help in advance!!!

    Best regards
    Henning

    https://www.ads-software.com/extend/plugins/leaguemanager/

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  • Plugin Author LaMonte Forthun

    (@lamontef)

    If you look around over the last week or two you’ll see that the sorting in standings and tie-breakers are a hot topic. There is no one right way as everyone does it differently. The great thing about LeagueManager is that each ‘sport’ file can do the sorting how it best serves them.

    The current volleyball sort order is:

    points (based on the scoring rule you select as there isn’t a point rule built into the volleyball.php file at this point)
    set diff
    won sets
    ballpoints diff
    ballpoints

    With that in mind, the best thing to do is modify the ‘volleyball.php’ file to do what you need to do. Everything you need is available, it just needs to be ordered properly. There are no meaningful tie-breakers in the system that will work for you, that’s what I’m trying to figure out on an overall scale, so if two teams end up tied after your three criteria, you might have to add points manually (the last column) temporarily until the tie is broken via another match.

    I’m looking to change the way the ranking works a bit to make it easier for users that aren’t interested in getting their hands dirty in php code and it’s something that I’m putting a lot of time in on right now.

    Send me an email – lamontef (at) yahoo (.) com – and we’ll get something that will work for you when I can get to it.

    Thread Starter nunatakka

    (@nunatakka)

    Thank you for your (very!) fast reply!
    :o)

    Your description doesn’t match my (untouched) installation.
    Trimmclub has won 2 games, set-ratio is 4:1, ballpoint-ratio 122:84
    Gerschede has won 2 games, set-ratio is 4:0, ballpoint-ratio 102:78

    Trimmclub is 1st, Gerschede is 2nd, but Gerschede should be first if the order-logic would be like you described.

    I just didn’t touch any files because i have really poor knowledge in php. Thank you for your hint with the volleyball-file. I think this will help to push me to some solution. It should be possible to fix the problem on my site.

    Best regards and i’m really thankfull for your work and also for your help!
    I’ll close this issue tomorrow, so you may have the ability to post a reply.

    Plugin Author LaMonte Forthun

    (@lamontef)

    Can you do a team and match export and send me those files so I can look at them, please? My email address is above. Along with it, a screen shot of your league preference screen would be helpful just so I can duplicate everything exactly. I’ll look at it all and get back to you.

    Just to confirm, you’re on the latest version of LeagueManager (3.8.8.1) or an earlier version?

    Thanks

    burvi2001

    (@burvi2001yahoocom)

    Hi LaMonte,
    In my case, team separation is made regarding direct result between two teams, not goal diff.
    How can I change this in my table to show correct positions ?

    I talk about soccer, of course, I have a championship, and, I noticed that team separation is made alphabetically at teams with the same number of points.

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