• I think all of these people who are whining about what Gutenberg can’t do are so annoying. If you are a skilled developer running into technical issues then let’s talk, but if you are a front-end CSS-only developer who is mad because you can’t color an individual word in a sentence, just stop. Take that example, you can use CSS to make it happen, you can use the classic editor, you can use a classic editor plugin, you can use a plugin to give Gutenberg the function you want it to have, or you can learn to develop for Gutenberg and add it yourself. That’s plenty of options. If you don’t like it don’t use it.

    You know what makes Gutenberg awesome? It’s the only visual editor I’ve seen that builds the page in advance, rather than pulling everything in with shortcodes. It’s the only editor I’ve seen that only loads what it needs, when it needs it, instead of loading 15 javascript files for a page with nothing on it. It is by far the best experience for the READER, and that’s the only person who matters at the end of the day.

    That being said, I don’t understand why WordPress is so slow to begin with. Why not make a CMS that generates complete HTML files, instead of PHP files that dynamically pull in information. They just load way too slow when they have to load all of wordpress every time a user visits the site. I don’t get it. If WordPress doesn’t change this system it will be obsolete by 2025.

    Anyway, I think the problem lies with the wordpress team for not informing the user base better. The documentation for developers is lacking, the support is non-existent, and they advertise Gutenberg as the future of websites or something, which it isn’t, it’s just an alternative, and it’s really meant to be used by authors and bloggers who hire a developer to do the complicated stuff, not by developers who expect it to make their job easier. I think the marketing staff wanted everyone to adopt it, but the developers were only designing it for authors. Now everyone is under the impression that Gutenberg would revolutionize the way we build websites, like it would be an answer to squarespace, which it’s not.

    There’s a reason there is no menu block… it’s not a website builder. Get your expectations in line with reality.

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  • Skilled developers or even semi-skilled users don’t whine, because they instantly install Classic Editor and forget about Gutenberg’s existence.

    Instead, basic users really care nothing about all the pretty technical awesomeness you describe in the second chapter.

    I can’t see why you state Gutenberg provides the best experience for the reader, as an editor should be intended primarily for writers.

    Of course, trying to force users to adopt an counter-intuitive block editor proved a big mistake. As a consequence of that, now disappointed users’ feedback are the only reality to get in line with.

    Thread Starter joshmaxwell

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    The best experience for the reader, as in, Gutenberg loads fast. Unlike elementor or fusion, which both load incredibly slow. I mean, don’t get me wrong, wordpress itself is slow on the front end when a site is big enough, but fusion turns it into a turtle.

    Gutenberg is the first visual editor that doesn’t compromise user experience, that’s awesome. As someone who’s bread and butter is the viewers of my sites, making my site load fast, while still being able to design it quickly, is a godsend.

    Gutenberg isn’t perfect by the way, I’ve been incredibly frustrated with it, and if i had the time I could make a better one myself, honestly, I’ve built CMS’s in the past and from my experience i can tell you that Gutenberg is what you call over-engineered.

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