Why we need”Paste from Word” and “Past as Plain Text buttons on TinyMCE editor?

henkholland
Thank you for your response.

>As said± I did exactly the same in 2.9.1. and a direct paste in the
> text area did not retain the bold/strong but a paste through Paste
> from Word did. So this not harmfull code is retained in Paste from
> Word.
May be my confusion is coming from difference between my WordPress(2.8.5)’s behavior and your WordPress(2.9.1)’s behavior.

In my WordPress(2.8.5), “both” a direct paste in the text area of TinyMCE editor and a paste through “Paste from Word” button retain the bold/strong tag from Word document.

That is why I am saying I do not understand difference between a direct paste in the text area and a paste through “Paste from Word” button.

>Still. I never do a direct paste from Word because it also pastes other >unwanted Word stuff from documents with more special makeup.
I will keep in mind this.

It really depends what’s in your document, for basic stuff, pasting into the textarea will seem(and usually be) no different then pasting using the “Paste from Word” button…

Older versions of Word and more complex documents will carry junk across in a standard copy > paste situation, but not every situation, it’s just a whole lot easier if everyone follows the same procedure of using the “Paste from Word” button, so as to avoid the need to repeatedly explain to users why they should NOT just CTRL+C , CTRL+V, etc..

When you’re thinking in terms of writing or creating something that needs to adhere to any kind of standard on the web, the last place you should be looking is at any program with the name Microsoft on it imo… (although i appreciate it’s simplicity for alot of people)..

t31os_
Thank you for your response.

All right. So the conclusion is that , for basic stuff, pasting directly into the text area of TinyMCE editor will seem(and usually be) no different from pasting using the “Paste from Word” button.

However, it is “better” to use the “Paste from Word” button, when you past document from MS Word to TinyMCE editor in WordPress in order to avoid carrying over junk code from MS Word.

Thank you everybody who gave me comment here.

Is there a way to input content into a page without using the tiny editor which is very hard to use. I can create html code and paste it in but that doesnt help my end user who has no knowledge of html.

Thought I could use the paste from word to preserve the word formatting and transfer it to wordpress but that option actually strips the word formatting so that doesnt help.

looking for a way to get formatted text into a wordpress page without having to use the wordpress page editor and without reverting to using html?

WordPress pages (and webpages in general) are rendered in HTML, you can’t just take Word formatted code and display it using that formatting.

If your content is intended for the web, then Word is *not* the application to be writing your articles in.

Does Word offer a save as HTML option? If so, maybe that might be an option to consider, though i’d not like to speculate about the quality of the output HTML from Word, it’s just a suggestion.

I’m using WP 3.0. Our web developers told us to use Microsoft Notepad instead of WP text editor/paste and WP Word editor/paste b/c even the WP editor tools might preserve old formatting. Is this true? So far it’s a pain to use Notepad.

When I copy and paste text from Notepad the plain text appears in a small font (formatthen right below it, the same text appears again but in slightly bigger font (the same font as WP “paragraph” formatting for WP).

I have to delete 2nd version of the text (the bigger font), but then I notice that the 1st version needs to be in “paragraph” format (My assumption is that it must be “paragraph” so that it translate to my website CSS. Is this correct?). When I change the text it increases to the same size as the 2nd version of the text I’d just deleted. So what’s the point of using Notepad, I say.

Main question: can I rely on WP text paste to remove all outside formatting?