WP Super Cache vs W3 Total Cache

Actually on second look. Just going to Browser Cache > HTML and XML, then disable ‘Set expires header and Set cache control header’ – this does the job.

I had just narrowed it right down to just the text/html values causing my troubles though. Hopefully the developers of these plugins can figure it out. I quite like both of them ??

@wjwood64, Wow your site really does load fast. Fastest I’ve seen for a WordPress site ever. Would you be willing to do some work on one of my WordPress sites? For a fee of course.

I’m right with superfastwhiteboy @wjwood64 if you’re up for some paying work doing your magic, I’m in too!

@erick_paper, it sounds like caching wasn’t actually working with W3TC (which may happen rarely on some servers). What are your settings?

@dave, what are you measuring and how are you measuring it exactly?

@frederick I simply set up a mirror of one site on a new server. Same, plugins, posts, images, scripts etc.

Used the same options in W3TC on both, then ran SuperCache, Compared using Pingdom, and gtmetrix.com

Yep, it’s not super scientific and probably has many conditions I don’t know about. But it is something I noticed as an end user. eg. hosting providers seem to make a difference when choosing which plugin to use.

It would be helpful to know what your other settings where. Even PHP versions can make a difference.

Superfastwhiteboy & gooma2

IF you are interested I would be happy to walk you through a lot of steps that will RADICALLY increase your site performance.

Will do it for no charge, only a front page link to my site. And will do it offline through e-mail correspondance if you like. If you are interested in the site performance increase go to my site at

https://www.r3now.com

Then send me an e-mail message either from the contact form or from my e-mail address (which you will have to manually type since it is an image to avoid SOME of the spam e-mail harvesters).

Bill

And I almost forgot, my site is SUPER optimized for SEO (a couple plugins and TONS of hand coded changes to the theme nobody else seems to be using).

I have a LOT of popular keywords where I am in the first position, and a BOATLOAD of popular, expensive keywords where I am on the first page of Google, Bing, and Yahoo…

NO black hat SEO either. All old fashioned hard work and lots of coding…

–> IMPORTANT UPDATE <–

As a result of my post I have gotten a LOT of responses from folks wanting to know how to speed up their site.

BEFORE I start going down the path of caching there are a LOT of preliminary fixes that most sites must do.

So if you are interested in really fixing your site,

1. Go to https://www.webpagetest.org/ and test your site.
2. Once the test is complete, click on the WATERFALL IMAGE that is generated to see the details of where many of your problems are.
3. Start addressing and correcting those first.

For example, I had one person who asked for help but their real problem was less about caching than about the silly JQUERY install that WordPress does. Solution?

Just add this plugin: https://www.ads-software.com/extend/plugins/use-google-libraries/

This adds the Google Libraries plugin to your site. It will REALLY help with your load time. It is served from Google’s site. And it is the most compressed and up to date. On top of that, MANY large sites use it so it is very likely that your users will already have it cached in their browser even the first time they visit your site.

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Another person was so in love with their FLASH picture changing that they would not do anything about it. Another one was in love with their Google Partner plugin which was taking up LITERALLY 30 seconds of load time. Whoever did that plugin created a bunch of JUNK! But they are hooked on it and won’t change it.

There are a LOT of fixes you should do before EVER putting in a caching program.

So, please check out your site first and be sure you are willing to fix some of what you find before going down the caching route. If you have trouble I’m okay with helping on that too. But if you don’t want to address the underlying issues with your site first then there is not a lot that many caching programs can do well for you.

@wjwood64: WP Widget Cache and WP Widget Cache are not compatible with the current WordPress version.

MacMacken, I guess someone forgot to tell me because I’ve been using them for quite some time. And I have them both installed on the current version of WordPress… Would you like me to post a screenshot?

Just go the respective plugin pages here on www.ads-software.com.

Ummm…MacMacken, I DID check the WordPress site and the Widget Cache plugin is fine.

Also, I’ve decided to include ALL of the links for all of the performance things I use.

Here are the performance plugins I use… I’ve also done some manual changes to my .htaccess file for better performance. One other thing, the Super Cache plugin (like W3TC) makes .htaccess changes as well.

It will be VERY important that your WordPress installations are in their own separate folders. You can’t have WordPress loaded in your root folder. If you load WordPress in a root folder and do ANY kind of .htaccess changes you may have trouble with other applications on your web site. The .htaccess settings cascade down into the lower level files and directories.

DB Cache Reloaded Fix
https://www.ads-software.com/extend/plugins/db-cache-reloaded-fix/

Use Google Libraries
https://www.ads-software.com/extend/plugins/use-google-libraries/

WP-Optimize
https://www.ads-software.com/extend/plugins/wp-optimize/

WP Minify
Don’t see it hosted on WordPress for now. Waiting to hear back from the author. This one works REALLY well!

WP Super Cache
https://www.ads-software.com/extend/plugins/wp-super-cache/

WP Widget Cache
https://www.ads-software.com/extend/plugins/wp-widget-cache/

A plugin whose author is not able to update the WordPress version it is supposed to work with is out of question for me.

Minify: https://www.ads-software.com/extend/plugins/bwp-minify/ is a great alternative. I don’t use Minify, however, bandwith is not an issue for me.

Sorry for the delay Frederick

PHP 5.2 for the working well on WT3C

And PHP 5.3.10 for the install that works better on SuperCache