You want to download the docs ? You can now.

Why why why ……..
Within a day of Codex being back, half a dozen of those will be updated. So will you download them all again ? Did you really need ‘How to Install ?’ if you did, then why download the advanced stuff ?

Thanks for the info – I’ll check the file later.

just in case!

bye!

That’s a great job Podz, you surely rock!! ??

CHM would ofcourse be much better than a PDF and as for HTML coding, I thought that I read somewhere about a CHM compiler that created it from Word files!! converting PDF to Word ofcourse is a piece of cake if you don’t already have a Word file. ??

If you wanna know, I’ll look for that CHM compiler.

amit – you could always do that ? ??

Are CHM files cross platform though?

-tg

Apparently there is some sort of code that will allow it on a Linux platform (though which I do not know). Mac ? not a clue.

ok, I’ll look for it tonight when I run into some free time!! ??

and another thing about your bandwidth issues, WordPress had an SF account, no? If its still there, then the docs can be hosted there. Or if Matt is unable to host them on Codex, then a new account can be created on SF(though I doubt they’ll allow it).

Are CHM files cross platform though?

Not cross-platform natively, since they are native to Windows only, but there are free softwares available so you can read them on Linux as well. I’m not aware of any such thing for Mac but possibly it’ll be there as well even if I don’t know of any!! ??

Another thing is that if we do it in a CHM format, then it’ll be of lesser weight than the current PDFs, take a look at the PHP Manual in CHM format, just 4MB or so, & its quite vast!!

Bandwidth currently is not an issue – the files are sitting in ISP space which is virtually unmetered. I have them elsewhere too (in my webspace) just in case.

As for cross-platform, PDF’s are. Yes they may be a bloated format compared to some, but the adobe format is pretty common.

Weight – if you only download what you actually need, then weight is not a problem. The largest pdf is around ~320KB which isn’t going to stress a machine. There is NO SENSE WHATSOEVER in creating one great big file – it would be utterly pointless. The fact is, if someone downloads everything they are just being daft – it’s a useless activity given the updating, and it’s a useless activity given that if you need the Installation help, then what are you doing getting all the stuff on template Tags ? Take what you want, when you want it. I will certainly never create one big file.

SF Hosting ? No idea. Seems like a lot of hoops to jump through.

Creation – has to be straightforward. As it is, anyone on any machine can grab OO and contribute. As soon as this deviates, then the number of people that could help reduces – and seeing as that number is already extremely small, it makes no sense.

Can I suggest that further discussion on this topic be taken to the Documentation Mailing List ?

You know what would be really cool? – and I’d offer to do this if I only knew how – Present the user with the list of available docs, each with a checkmark box. Then the user could click off (on?) the ones they do want. Click a button, and get a Zip file with the selected PDFs they requested. I don’t know how feasable that really is, but it would make downloading the ones you want a lot easier. I imagine the Zip file being generated on the fly. I’ve seen it done before, I just don’t know how to go about doing it.

-tg

And when they check them all it says “Tut tut tut, you didn’t want to do thaaaaaat ?? ”

And when they check them all it says “Tut tut tut, you didn’t want to do thaaaaaat ?? “

yeah, that would be uber cool, & the user would know that he’s hit something sacred & needs to re-think!! ?? ??

After much hard work by Podz on producing a downloadable codex that is Clear,concise and so easy to use compared to the officle Codex. I read with dismay that It is no longer available. Why? read here https://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/archives/2005/09/22/codex-and-pdf-i-killed-it/
It is a crying shame…

I know you’ve decided to kill this off, but did you ever look into getting raw xml data from the codex and using xsl to transform it into a pdf file? It may take a little bit of work, but you could write a script that compliles a new help document at given intervals.

There may be other factors I’m missing here.

duck – that presupposes I have a script, that such a script has maybe more access to raw data, and this issue was talked about on the docs list and at #meetup. But thats all that did happen – talk. And talk doesn’t update docs. I asked for support and help. I got none…. that’s the way it goes sometimes.

I changed my mind ??

https://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/archives/2005/11/16/information-should-be-free/