Aaron Courtyard

doh, both are correct, it was option-36

siteurl is right but i dont see home in wp-options

it is never on the homepage. Its always on the pages after. Even if i go to a sub page directly, it will happen. The page stays live for around 4 hours before it returns to a 404 state. I have in the past just reset permalinks and it back for 4 hours or so, but today i just logged in and checked and it was back up. When logged out after logging in the page is live for the 4 hours or so. Could it be some sort of hosting cache? my .htaccess is a large file from the W3 cache pluggin, could this be it? I use Cloudflare from the hosting, Could this be a problem?

think i fixed it by adding the
# BEGIN WordPress
<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>
RewriteEngine On
RewriteBase /new/
RewriteRule ^index\.php$ - [L]
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
RewriteRule . /new/index.php [L]
</IfModule>

# END WordPress

to the top of all that other stuff, seems to be working better.

all happened after the automatic update to 3.8.3. permission is set to 666.

Same problem. I have also updated to 3.9 now. Still have to update the permalinks a few times a day. the 404’s go away for a little while(like 4 hours) then the 404’s return.

Thank you for your service and correcting my mistakes! Your answer feels the most complete on this topic. I continue to learn as i go and am not always the best. Missing the mark just means i can learn more and be better next time. Thank you for that opportunity.

talked to a tech at blue host and he writes

“I noticed a guy that replied to your post mentioned this could be a bandwidth problem. I think that could definitely be a possibility as I’ve seen it before. However, when I’ve seen it in the past; visitors will see page that displays, “Error establishing a database connection,” and not 404 (not found) pages. Doesn’t mean it’s not possible though. Do you know how many visitors your site gets on average? Also, are you on a shared or pro hosting account?”

any new thoughts?

so this post says to after you try everything else to

“Next, use a debugger to view the rewrite array and confirm that the rewrite rule responsible for processing your URL is not in place. To do this, install the plugin Debug This, which makes it easy to view what is actually in the WordPress rewrite array.”

any thoughts?

I was wondering about Queries? would this help https://www.ads-software.com/plugins/debug-objects/

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so i couldnt get the error to happen for the tech, all he could do for me was get me to sign up with cloud flare, any thoughts ?

Thank you so much! i will talk to them right away!!

so since i installed this plugin i get sometimes 404 on pages and posts, It never happened before and i dont use this plugin anymore but ever since i installed it, i am forever stuck with this issue.

its funny, i bought it from Rocket theme on the gantry framework, I like the theme but the way they deliver support is based on how much you pay and there is a time limit, and they seem to milk that time limit so you have to pay again. Right now i have ran out of support time with none of my support issues dealt with.

it causes some wonder, do themes get updated? Should i not be updating plugins since it seems that the theme issue is coming up more and more?
the theme is from 2011.

in the long run its good that i have to dive deeper into these issues because i learn more and more. at the same time it feels like this is where WP is a little hokey. Thus all the support needed. Nothing is truly a turnkey.

What i fear is that i will some day have to make my own theme just to deal with these little issues that come up.

I have no trouble marking this thread as resolved. Everyone washes there hands of it with good reason. and in the end i may have to do the same. Maybe of WP too. Who knows maybe it will get better.

I really appreciate your time. You have been very attentive and i am grateful.

so i think it is actually a theme issue, still actively working to find the solution.