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I also can see the videos play on your test page. I tried replicating with 6.5 on a test site using your same link and was unable to do so. I’m not going to escalate this further until we get more information but please know it’s so appreciated that you flagged this up in case something is going wrong!

So the new question is: why do the font work and appear correctly in the “Manage theme fonts” but do not show up in the site editor (or some do, some don’t, depending on when they were added – before i created the child theme or after.)

If you’re open to it, I would recommend opening an issue in the repo for this plugin to get direct help from the folks both maintaining this plugin and working on adding font management to the Site Editor. Here’s where you can do so: https://github.com/WordPress/create-block-theme/issues

Fantastic to hear! I just checked and can confirm it’s working great on my end.

Happy WordPress-ing ??

Hey Fawad. Thanks for reaching out. For starters, I tested on my own site and made sure that, out of the box when using Twenty Twenty-Four and WooCommerce, the single product page template does show the header template part. At this point, this rules out a conflict with WooCommerce! This doesn’t solve your problem though. Let’s get your header to show up. Please follow these steps:

1. While logged into your site, go to https://suppleyes.com.au/shop/natural-leaves-90-pack/
2. Select “Edit site” in the top black toolbar.
3. This will open up the template that powers this page called “Single Product”.
4. Click into the canvas where you can see the contents of that template to begin editing.
5. Open List View and select the very top block in List View (most likely a Group block).
6. Click the three dot menu and select “Add before”.
7. From there, you’ll see the option to “Type / to choose a block” appear above the top block.
8. Type “/header”. This should cause your header template part to be added.
9. Save your changes and you should be all set!

Let me know how this goes for you or if you run into any issues.

In case it helps too, you can also use the Live Preview feature to preview how your site will look before switching themes and make changes to ensure everything looks as you want it to. If you want to get a sense of what’s that feature is like, watch this video starting at 3:40. Written out, you can head to Appearance > Themes and, after hovering over Twenty Twenty-Three, you’ll see a “Live Preview” option. Once you select that, you’ll be brought to the Site Editor, the new editing experience, where you can make changes and resolve any issues in switching over to this new theme or you can back out to keep things as they are.

Hey there! Awesome to hear you’re using the Create Block Theme plugin. From what I can gather with what you’ve shared and how child themes work, it sounds like potentially the font asset source?isn’t correct. By chance, can you share your theme.json file for both the parent and child theme so I can test this out and see what’s going on? You could also be running into a bug that I can report on.

Of note, work is underway to add managing fonts to WordPress out of the box in WordPress 6.5 if all goes well (not a guarantee). You can follow the efforts here if you’re interested.

Hey there! Thanks for your question. There’s not a way to hide the header template part out of the box but you can do this with Custom CSS. For example, the following CSS hides the header template part when the screen size is smaller than 768px on my test site:

@media only screen and (max-width: 768px) {
header.wp-block-template-part {
display: none;
}
}

Note: you might need to tweak the above to work for your specific site. You’ll want to add this CSS in the Custom CSS section of Styles as described in this support document. You can also use the Command Palette to get their faster by. Just use the keyboard shortcut?Cmd+kon Mac or?Ctrl+k?on Windows to activate it?and start typing “CSS”.

Hope this helps!

P.S. I am also a huge admirer of the lovely Julie Andrews. What a great site.

@schreiner Hey there! Just for clarity for anyone else reading this, this theme works without the Gutenberg plugin. It does however rely on and expand the use of the block editor aka using blocks to build your site. Out of curiosity, what user interface would you like to use with this theme?

Hey @ecsproull. Very cool to hear your background – it’s nice to “meet” you from afar and get to know a bit more about your work. I hope retirement is treating you well.

Maybe a simple demo about how to do the simple stuff, like add to a menu. I’m a developer, I could give a crap about creating a site without coding. I’ve been working with blocks for years although I don’t need them much.

There are a number of support docs if you’re not into the course I mentioned above. Here are a few that cover the basics:

– Navigation block, including creating menus.
– Site Editor, including how to style your site, navigate between templates, and more.
– Styles Overview (in case you want a deeper dive into customizing your site).
– Query Loop block. I feel like you might enjoy exploring this in particular with your developer background since it’s a more advanced block currently.

If you have other recommendations for content that would be helpful, let me know! I’m a faculty member for the Learn WordPress initiative and I’d like to ensure what folks need is being thought of/created.

Separately (and I’ve mentioned this in other reviews), I run a program called the FSE outreach program that’s dedicated to improving the Full Site Editing experience by gathering feedback from WordPress site builders. This is done through regular calls for testing, feedback summary posts, hallway hangouts to discuss work in more depth, open Q&As, and more. With your unique background, I’d love to have you join in but, of course, want to be mindful of your time. Here are more details/an overview if you’d like to evaluate it for yourself: https://make.www.ads-software.com/test/handbook/full-site-editing-outreach-experiment/

Seems like the same mistake we made with Windows 8. We loved it but the world hated it. I don’t see anything worth getting excited about.

Rest assured that the pain points are very much known, including by yours truly who runs a few personal sites using block themes and full site editing functionality. In case it helps reflect back the level of awareness, here’s the most recent high level recap of feedback others have about the current experience with block themes and full site editing. I hope that you find that your concerns are reflected there. If not, this is where joining the outreach program would be splendid or just simply opening issues you find in GitHub. For now though, thanks for indulging a longer response from me and for your time in engaging at all. It’s much easier to disengage in this world than it is to dig in ??

@vikagladka Thanks for your feedback! I tried to replicate this by using only internal links in the navigation block and ensuring the “mobile” option was enabled in the Overlay settings. I found it worked as expected. Can you share more information about what happens when you try to do so? In case it helps, here’s more information about the options in the navigation block for displaying well on a smaller screen.

@perthykjaerjensen Thanks for your feedback and for taking the time to share.

The menu styles are lost

For the menu styles, can you share a bit more about what’s going on? I’m concerned there might be a bug to report. I did find this recently in case it’s related: https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/41146

The menu identation will not transform to dropdowns

You might find this support doc on the navigation block helpful, including how to add sub menu items. If this isn’t what you were describing, let me know!

Preview does not work

Because the Site Editor should reflect what’s on the front end, the Preview functionality is indeed different in the current experience. With that said, the idea of a “browse mode” has come up: https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/23328 with some explorations underway around how a browse mode could be incorporated into a site’s menu: https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/36667

@philraymond Thanks for your feedback! To help those of us working on the experience, can you share any specific feedback or pain points that you have? In case it helps, here’s some high level feedback I recently gathered through a program I run that might already capture some of your concerns.

@dotlicious Thanks for your feedback! To help those of us working on the experience, can you share any specific feedback or pain points that you have? In case it helps, here’s some high level feedback I recently gathered through a program I run that might already capture some of your concerns.

Hey @thistlebean! I know this response is coming quite late but I wanted to ensure to share some resources in case it’s helpful. I’d also love to know any specifics you have around the menu system through the navigation block.

As for the template system, work is underway to improve that experience as you can see from the WordPress 6.1 roadmap: https://make.www.ads-software.com/core/2022/06/04/roadmap-to-6-1/ Right now, it does feel disjointed with the option to create some templates in the Site Editor and others in the Template Editor with more confusion in place around how to apply a template after it’s been created. This and more has been captured by community feedback so rest assured it’s something those of us working on the experience are aware of and working to improve.

Of note, I run a program called the FSE outreach program that’s dedicated to improving the Full Site Editing experience by gathering feedback from WordPress site builders. This is done through regular calls for testing, feedback summary posts, hallway hangouts to discuss work in more depth, open Q&As, and more. I’d love to have you join, since you seem to have a solid grasp on the current pain points. There’s more information here if you want to evaluate it: https://make.www.ads-software.com/test/handbook/full-site-editing-outreach-experiment/

@psychicsandra I know this is a months late response but I wanted to at least follow up with some resources that might be helpful:

Learn about the Twenty Twenty-Two Theme and the various full site editing features it unlocks.

Learn about Block Themes and how they allow you to edit all parts of your site with blocks.

Take a course on Learn WordPress about how to build a site with full site editing and the Twenty Twenty-Two Theme.

For you, I’d recommend the course as it really walks you through everything you need to know, including some new blocks, the style systems, and templates!