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@paul Biron – I’m there ??

@paul Biron – I understand that the HTML5 spec lists the microformats site. However, the rel keywords only become valid if someone creates and maintains a working specification for the rel keyword(s). rel keyword(s) without a defined specification is not valid HTML5.

Also, without the specification, no one knows how or when to use the rel keyword(s) correctly.

Without the specification, the rel keyword(s) are useless to search engines, which is kind of the point of using them in the first place.

Finally…

If you want to create and maintain the rel=”category” microformat spec, you can simply copy/paste the rel=”tag” spec and replace “tag” with “category” – that should give you all the language you need and is already in an approved format. Though finding implementations and references may be hard if WordPress is the only one using it.

A caveat may come in the form of usage. The way rel=”category” is being used, is by microformat definition, the same thing as rel=”tag” and if they aren’t different in usage, I don’t see why it is needed. I don’t see how WordPress “Categories” are not defined under the rel=”tag” microformat specification. Categories are tags.

I’ve been searching for some rhyme or reason as to why rel=”category” and rel=”category tag” were used in the development of the WordPress core and found several www.ads-software.com posts about the topic.

I just posted a little history and explanation about this at https://www.ads-software.com/support/topic/get_the_category_list-produces-rel-attribute-with-invalid-values?replies=7#post-2720221

People keep quoting the microformats list (found at https://microformats.org/wiki/existing-rel-values#HTML5_link_type_extensions) as valid rel keywords. However, they neglect to read the information, very plainly stating that there is no formal specification for rel=”category” and rel=”category tag” and the status of proposed means it has not received wide peer review and approval…

Its one thing to include elements which are already part of the HTML5 Working Draft, but completely different to include elements which are not even being considered at this time.

There is a lot of confusion about time being removed and reinstated, mostly brought on by media reports from people who don’t understand what is going on.

Ian ‘Hixie’ Hickson filed a bug “Consider replacing time with data” on 2011-07-14(See: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13240)

Ian ‘Hixie’ Hickson closed the bug on 2011-10-29, removing it from the HTML5 spec (See: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13240#c47) It was immediately applied to the HTML5 SVN (See: https://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=6782&to=6783)

However the W3C WG chairs vetoed minutes, Ian ‘Hixie’ Hickson’s decision in their meeting on 2011-11-03 (See: https://www.w3.org/2011/11/03-html-wg-minutes.html#item03)

As far as I can tell, this issue never affected the HTML5 Working Draft (See: https://www.w3.org/TR/html5/ which is edited by Ian ‘Hixie’ Hickson), only the Editorial Draft.

The HTML5 validation, offered by the W3C, is powered by the parsing power of validator.nu, which utilizes an HTML5 parsing algorithm defined by WHATWG (Web Hypertext Application Technology Working Group) at https://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#parsing

The information web developers (like us) need, to ensure HTML5 is used correctly, can be found at https://developers.whatwg.org/ with all the browser lingo removed. Guess what, this space is also edited by Ian ‘Hixie’ Hickson (and Ben Schwarz).

Don’t get me wrong, I’m an advocate for the time element. However, Ian Hickson didn’t singlehandedly modify and change the HTML5 “Working” specification, we all use and that the various browsers understand when presenting our code. He made a proposal, based on his findings and concerns, and then tried to persuade the group with his position and opinions. So what? Everyone does this from one time to another.

However, to my knowledge rel=”category” and rel=”category tag” has never been part of the HTML5 specification. It has been proposed by a private party, outside of those who build the specification, and it wasn’t proposed with any kind of formal specification backing (See: https://microformats.org/wiki/existing-rel-values#HTML5_link_type_extensions).

If you look at https://microformats.org/wiki/existing-rel-values#HTML5_link_type_extensions carefully, you’ll see an entire list of rel keywords, whose status is proposed. However, this doesn’t mean they are part of the HTML5 working specification, and may not be likely to get in (See: https://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/links.html#other-link-types under Status:Proposed). rel=”category” and rel=”category tag” has not received wide peer review and approval… thus it is invalid and not part of the HTML5 Spec and invalid.

Until one of the major players in the HTML5 Working Group, formally submit a request, with a working specification, and use cases on how it is used, it will not be added. The ones proposed by Apple validate!

With all the intellect involved in developing WordPress, it seems this particular issue has escaped the minds of some brilliant people. Why anyone would add rel=”category” and rel=”category tag” to the internal framework of WordPress, even while it is completely unsupported, is beyond me. It’s not like it showed up due to a theme developer. It was built into the WordPress Framework.

My solution, DELETE IT! If Google’s own Ian ‘Hixie’ Hickson doesn’t consider it valid, I do not see any benefit, in using it.

I used the Register Plus Redux, some time back. I know it was found to have some security issues and was pulled, from the repository, by WordPress. I quit using it at that time.

However, I’ve read several posts about how the Register Plus Redux plugin is no longer being developed. Well, now I’m without the plugin and can’t further work on it myself.

1. Does anyone know the what the last version of Register Plus Redux was and what version of WordPress it “Officially” supported?
2. Does anyone have the original zip file for this version, so I can download it?
3. Does anyone know the what the security issue was which lead to WordPress pulling it?

I used the Register Plus Redux, some time back. I know it was found to have some security issues and was pulled, from the repository, by WordPress. I quit using it at that time.

However, I’ve read several posts about how the Register Plus Redux plugin is no longer being developed. Well, now I’m without the plugin and can’t further work on it myself.

1. Does anyone know the what the last version of Register Plus Redux was and what version of WordPress it “Officially” supported?
2. Does anyone have the original zip file for this version, so I can download it?
3. Does anyone know the what the security issue was which lead to WordPress pulling it?

I wonder if there is a way to incorporate a drop-down or check list of the various versions of Internet Explorer. Personally, I’d like to use this plugin be able to generate this message, if any version of Internet explorer is detected.

I’m curious if anyone has been able to duplicate your claim @juliobox?

If so, I’m wondering if it has been addressed yet in this plugin?

I would like to update my last post…

The z-index of #branding, is 9999 regardless of which “Color Scheme” is selected or “Default Layout” is chosen.

Meaning, the issue I reported, occurs on all “Color Scheme” and “Default Layout” combinations, when using the 2011 theme.

The z-index of your notification area is 999;

However, the z-index of #branding is 9999;

Here’s what I’ve done, to help verify:

1. When I change the #branding z-index to 999 or less, the Big BLACK LINE in the middle goes away, but it does not address the text in the “Notice Bar” being crowded all the way to the left.
2. I looked at the CSS code, for the default installation of the 2011 Theme (by WordPress) and the z-index of #branding (when the “Color Scheme” is set to dark and “Default Layout” is set to content on right.) is 9999, no matter how many times it is deleted, downloaded and re-activated.
3. I’ve verified my steps on three different, clean WordPress installations, with the same result. When the steps I outlined above, are followed and a person doesn’t see the issues I reported, they either have another plugin/mod, which is interfering or they don’t have the 2011 Theme installed/activated in the manner I outlined. The z-index setting of #branded is what comes built-in to the WordPress 2011 Theme, when downloaded from WordPress.
4. I question why the z-index of branding is set to 9999 but cannot find a real reason. However, a point of interest: The entire header is styled with the #branding css, and only the border-top is being affected by the z-index. Why isn’t the entire header area displaying on top of the notifications area, since it has been assigned a z-index, higher than the notification area?

ScreenShots for Firefox:

1. Firefox-Logged Out
2. Firefox-Logged In

ScreenShots for Google:

1. Google-Logged Out
2. Google-Logged In

ScreenShots for Opera:

1. Opera-Logged Out
2. Opera-Logged In

Notice how the text in the “Notice Bar” is all crowded to the left and the Big BLACK LINE in the middle.

I can duplicate this issue over and over again. I’ve tried it on several WordPress installations including clean installs.

Step 1: Install WordPress
Step 2: Log in to WordPress
Step 3: Go to: Appearance > Theme Options
Step 4: Set “Color Scheme” to dark and “Default Layout” to content on right.
Step 5: Click the “Save Changes” button
Step 6: Install “Simple Notices” plugin.
Step 7: Activate “Simple Notices” plugin.
Step 8: Go to: Notices > Add New & create a new notice
Step 9: Click on the “Publish” button
Step 10: Navigate to the homepage of the WordPress Site (I.E. https://yourWordPressSite.tld) to see the problem.

Even after your update, it still does not work correctly.

Each time I have verified this issue, it is a basic install of WordPress v3.3.1 with the default 2011 Theme. I do not activate any of the default plugins and I immediately install your plugin. So, with no customization at all, except for your plugin, I’m able to see that your plugin isn’t working as it should.

Hmmm… I had very similar results about 6 months ago. I even tested the issue I was having on a couple different WP installs. I reported my similar issue, here (https://www.ads-software.com/support/topic/sketchy-ability-at-best), but never got a single response.

There have been numerous similar issues, as far back as a year ago, and no one has reported it being fixed, yet.

See:

• https://www.ads-software.com/support/topic/plugin-intensedebate-comments-comment-spam?replies=7
• https://www.ads-software.com/support/topic/plugin-intensedebate-comments-plugin-intensedebate-broken-or-intended-functionality?replies=4
• https://www.ads-software.com/support/topic/plugin-intensedebate-comments-cant-see-most-of-spams-and-comments?replies=2

You would think though, with a year to work on it, the issue would have been addressed.

@davidwood – I guess I did know there was a settings section already for adding messages based on a mode, just not the ability to quickly see/modify/delete messages.

The modes, built in to TM Replace Howdy, may actually be the best place to integrate #2. One of the modes, could be “Role Based” and a list could be created for each role.

In my 4th and final attempt, I used a list of 999 users.

At this point, I get the success messages for each of the 999 users (even the dupes). So, it looks like this plugin and they way it uses PHP is going to be limited for most people at 1000 users at a time or less.

If you looked at the PHP info I posted above, my PHP limits are way above average.

I know I didn’t post the hardware specs of this machine, as I’m positive they are not even close to being part of the issue.

Dual Quad-Core 2800 MHz Processors
16GB DDR2 RAM
4 1.5TB Hard Drives

During testing, only the one website, with WordPress and this plugin are installed/running, so it isn’t putting too big of a load on the processors and it isn’t consuming too much ram.

The .CSV file size is no where near the WordPress/PHP 8MB file size limit.

In any event, I’m still giving this plugin a 5-Star Recommendation and a “Works” vote, as it was never intended to support such large lists.

@happynuclear – If you need anything else from me, this is pretty much what I do all day (write HTML/CSS, evaluate code, test/re-test & modify).

I manage my own hosting environment and I do all my own server administration and network admin. The hosting environment is a Cloudmin/Virtualmin/Webmin powered LAMP Stack. This gives me the ability to quickly load any number of web systems, in a matter of seconds.

If you want to test this further, just let me know.