Cagatay Belgen

@jlps1977 can’t you even use google translate? I hate it when people assume everybody knows every language…

@sergeybiryukov

It won’t, because those sites, unlike yours, have a proper rel=”canonical” link.

are you telling that my site (outdoorhaber.com) doesn’t have proper canonical link structure? or are you guessing?

let’s wait couple days and see if google indexes the links above.

if the content of this topic concerns you in terms of seo, please try to understand what this great article below tells and try to implement the same in google webmaster tools.

https://www.silkstream.net/blog/2013/11/google-webmaster-tools-parameters-tutorial.html

For your information, this is how I acted in webmaster tools

• This reply was modified 8 years ago by Cagatay Belgen.

They won’t. The links here are rel=”nofollow” and besides, I’m 99.44% that is not how Google works. If it were then it would be the easiest way to poison other people’s SERP and it’s 2017. The rel-canonical on our WordPress sites (like yours) don’t do that.

I really don’t know what’s going on with your site and Google but as you’ve indicated it’s not really a WordPress issue.

google follows rel=”nofollow” links too. because it’s a link. that’s how google discovers new sites and pages. rel=”nofollow” just states you’re not responsible for the type of content the link has.. whether it’s good or bad.

what’s going on with my sites will go on with all sites I posted here.

this problem is arising everyday, but people always think it has something to do with getting hacked..

I think this is an untaken care of thing from the past.. from the very beginning. since all programmers are focused on their expertise and nobody complains except me, it lasts to date.

Then your site isn’t hacked, and you should probably be paying attention to what Jan and Otto are telling you.

they are telling me that this is a normal behavior. they are right, because drupal and .net sites behave the same.

but in reality, all sites that I posted here in this topic with ?p=keyword will face the same difficulties.

Google will follow these links and because the permalinks will include ?p=keyword tons of copies of every page will appear in google index.

Do that. Visit that URL, view the source, Ctrl+F and search for “casino”.

Looks like a hack to me.

please do the same for your wordpress website.

yoursite.com/category/?p=online+casino please try that.

and after you try please see the pagination links generated at the bottom. They all include ?p=keyword too….

ahrefs is an example. these links are not automatically generated in my site (outdoorhaber.com)

putting a link with ?p=keyword is enough for google to follow and it treats them like new pages. because wordpress returns pagination urls with ?p=keyword added, google continue crawling pages (1,2,3,4,5,etc) with ?p=keyword

https://i.imgur.com/FhRwhWu.jpg perhaps this tool in webmastertools is the way to tell google how these p= links should be treated.

Are you saying your site is automatically creating pagination links with that ?p=online+casinos in them? There’s not a situation where WordPress should ever do that.

That’s what I am telling from the beginning.

once you land on https://ahrefs.com/blog/archive/page/30/?p=online+casino click a link on pagination links. they are like
https://ahrefs.com/blog/archive/page/31/?p=online+casino
https://ahrefs.com/blog/archive/page/32/?p=online+casino
https://ahrefs.com/blog/archive/page/33/?p=online+casino
and so on…

now that I put ahrefs.com links here, google will index these pages (not just page 30,31,32,33 it will go to page 34 then page 34 will show up page 35 with ?p=online+casino and so on…)

what I want and what’s ideal is wordpress and any other content management system should not render ?p= in permalinks https://ahrefs.com/blog/archive/?p=online+casino (look at pagination links at the bottom)

what I did while talking to you is

told google not to crawl pages with ?p= Disallow: /*?p= (hoping this action will also remove duplicate ?p= links in it’s index)
and
created a cloudflare rule which gives 404 to all pages with ?p=

now my site (not the most problematic one) https://www.outdoorhaber.com/makale/?p=type+whatever+you+want (finally I can type it freely) gives 404.(at least google won’t find ?p= links in automatically created pagination links) Since it gives 404 google wont index the link above, because it does not exist.

now when I try to use wp-admin, most of it’s parts also will give 404 error. To overcome this problem I will directly connect to my site (alter cloudflare using a host entry in hosts file in my computer)

But come on, look at this mess https://i.imgur.com/UcUxGBo.jpg they appear on search results, they create duplicate content issues. That’s why I said “this is year 2017” This shouldn’t be an issue at all.

please do not close this topic, since there are tons of people who got rid of pharma hacks etc but still seeing those links in search results

both site owners and those who want to help think and focus on hacking related issues. Therefore they waste their time for nothing.

in terms of seo, perhaps adding the line below in robots.txt may help

Disallow: /*?p=

Sites like Ahrefs who gives tons of seo advices are also affected https://ahrefs.com/blog/archive/?p=online+casino and no measure has been taken https://ahrefs.com/robots.txt

Why do you think I ended up here?

My site consists of 180 posts, 9 pages, around 200 tags and 10 categories.

When I do site:domain.com it appears that I have 18000 pages. (over %90 with bs ?p= links)

A year ago I asked a similar question by giving my site as an example (idiot me) and then Google treated them as links, followed them and then it has 18000 combinations of my site with page/1/?p=blahblah page/2/?p=blahblah tag/keyword/?p=blahblah etc etc in its index.

Since then, visitors dropped from 200k/month to 50k/month.

I am trying to look within the programmer’s perspective (I am not an active programmer, just graduaded 17 years ago) if I type url/?p=bla it shouldn’t include it in rendered result.

@jandembrowski

ok, now I am convinced that it is not just a wordpress issue, because the same problem appears on

drupal sites
https://www.drupal.org/news?p=online+casinos (look at pagination)

microsoft sites (considering they are built with .net)
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/?p=online+casinos (look at pagination)

tomorrow, all links I posted here will be crawled by google and those sites will end up by having tons of online+casino duplicate links in google index.

Do you think I just discovered a new tool to make negative seo?

This is year 2017 and after a year with heavy googling I found nothing except a suggestion which tells to disable query strings from htaccess beginning with ?p= (which also leaves wp-admin and most plugins useless)

Now this is not just my problem, but every website owners problem who want to benefit from search engine results. How are we going to solve this, since it appears to be a problem of huge sites also..

@jdembowski

every wordpress site is affected with this.

look at this site.

https://www.wpbeginner.com/category/wp-tutorials/page/2/?p=online%20casinos this is one of the most popular wordpress information sites around. now move your mouse over the “wordpress generated” pagination links (page 1, page2, page3, etc) below, you will see all links have +blah+blah included.

once google picks up a link with ?p= and follows it, wordpress returns all urls with ?p= it treats them like a seperate page and include them in its index. Then a huge problem arises, your website have duplicate content issue.
I am blaming wordpress for this issue. It automatically puts ?p=blah to pagination links.

Yeah. Sorry, THAT’S a hacking issue because nothing in WordPress will ever generate incorrect ?p=strings+here like that. The only reason that would happen is if something on your site did something like that.

What you mean is www.ads-software.com and automattic.com is also hacked?

https://www.ads-software.com/support/?p=online+casinos doesn’t return 404
https://automattic.com/news/?p=online+casinos doesn’t return 404

please install a fresh wordpress and try it yourself… or I consider you have at least one wordpress installation, try it on yourself…

You won’t like that answer. That’s one side effect when something is installed on your site and it’s blindly appending nonsense to generated URLs without reason or care.

fresh untouched wordpress installation behaves the same.

whatever “appending nonsense” affects automattic.com and www.ads-software.com too.

actually I don’t understand what you guys are arguing about.

Actually the biggest problem with this is, if you put ?p=blah+blah after a category and hit enter, the returned page from wordpress includes ?p=blah+blah in pagination links.

Then google (and other search engines) begin crawling the site and then tons of duplicate links appear in google index.

This is a great opportunity for those who wants to give negative seo impact on their competitors.

They just put their competitors links with ?p=blah1 / ?p=blah2 ?p=blah3 and so on… google will end up having 10000s of duplicate links in its index.