Ya I did some looking around also, my solution was to go back to v 1.3.4, that is the last version that works correctly in all 3 browsers, since most of my pages are static in content anyway using an older version right now looks to be the way to go for me. The bosses have all agreed on the look and feel so I am not going to switch themes and have to have them all discuss it again LOL, thanks for the info.