danallenhouston

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I managed to fix the problem. I put up the screenshot, in case it was a browser issue.

Thank you for taking a look.

I have the same question, thank you for asking. I’ll be tracking this question.

That answer worked perfect, thank you!

Hi, thanks for the response.

I am confused, because a few minutes ago, before you answered, this question was closed.

Looking at the answer you provided now, will let you know how it works out. Thanks again.

Honestly, I was thinking there must be an admin setting the core wordpress for this. I’ll get the feel for this after awhile. Right now, it takes all my willpower to resist making fun of WordPress. ??

I mean, a plug in to change the order of post display. How is that considered intuitive? I guess the intuition is that everything you want WP to do requires a plug in, so the point of WPress seems to be accepting plugins and not much else. I think WP is a strange system. I think the same of Drupal and Joomla, for exactly the same kinds of reasons. I am not sure that line of discussion is possible on this forum. People seem to see it as bashing, but it isn’t that. I am just struggling to have sanity and understanding of WordPress at the same time.

Thank you. I figured there was a plugin, I need to be better at finding them.

The impression that I get from your… let’s face it, moaning, is that when you were younger you could learn faster than now. It doesn’t take rocket science to know the name for this: aging. Perhaps time is catching up with you but you shouldn’t just blame it on a CMS that’s the most popular blogging system on the Internet. Sometimes the problem is ours.

Why is my problem isolated to WordPress? I use new systems all the time. Only WordPress confounds me. I am not alone, as shown by philbooth’s comments.

I think WordPress sells itself on simplicity, appealing to non programmers. Then, to provide all the features required, WordPress requires plugins and customization. Adding plugins and customizing WordPress is a form of programming, even though you don’t call it that. By the time a person copes with understanding plugins, how to find them, how to make your own if you need them, you are programming in a WordPress world that is no easier than other programming worlds. The difference is the people who understand WordPress programming are in a world of their own, not understanding why programmers from other worlds would be confused by WordPress.

Any new system comes with a learning curve. WordPress is no different, in that respect, than any other piece of software.

WordPress is significantly harder to learn than many systems. I work with new systems all the time, it is how I make a living. WordPress stands out in its difficulty to grasp.

Select the Support link at the top of this or any page. The second item in the dropdown is “Documentation”. Isn’t that straightforward enough?

It would be if it did not lead to a page titled “WordPress Codex”. It should lead to a page titled “WordPress Documentation.” Also, it is common for WordPress people to refer to the “Codex” as if that is a term people should know. This is a great example of mystique creating confusion.

I think you are confusing “cult” with “community”.

All cults are communities. If you have to say your community is not a cult, it is a cult.

Also, unfortunately, a savvy botnet consisting, reportedly, of 50000 bots may send distribute the attacks so that each bot starts from its IP just a handful of attacks that will fly under radar of any WP security plugin.

My primary concern at this point is to make sure my WP installations have no WordPress-caused vulnerabilities. Any site, not just WordPress sites, can be attacked by bots. I just don’t want to be vulnerable in a WP-specific way.

I’ve started a project for hardening my WP installations, focusing on the recommendations from WP, and any upgrades that seem like no brainers (such as maybe WordFence).

phillbooth, Thank you for the suggestion about the college class, but I am going to object. Considering the scope of what I have learned without taking a college course to learn it, I am skeptical of why WordPress would be the first technology over a period of 40 years requiring formal education to grasp.

Speaking of the Codex, is there any system besides WordPress using the term Codex in a similar manner? Maybe WordPress would be easier to understand if its documentation was called “documentation” or “guide” instead of “codex.”

I think WordPress is supported as much by cult as software excellence.

Asked the question in a different way as a new topic. Marking this resolved.

once i have the template up and running and i have the blank page, can I add html code to that specific page and/or to the template so I can customize the page to look the way I want?

Yes, exactly.

if so, where do i add the html code to the page since it is a dynamic page?

html goes into the page template, intermingled with php and WordPress “template tags.” I am just learning how to do this.

I assume i can add html code to the template page before I upload it, right?

I don’t quite get what you mean. Sounds like you know what you are doing with regard to making/editing these files.

It is so amazing how you are on the same path and mindset as I am. Us old timers… I think we better keep an eye on one another, but the last thing we need to do is fail to learn from the “wordpress yogi”s.

I can tell you one more thing, I was talking with a dude who was telling me how he understands WordPress and all that, but turned out… there is snake oil in some of these hills.. the hardest part for me has been accepting that it is just a lot different from basics we know coming in, and that is very frustrating. That said, I think if you command the templates with the WordPress template codes, you command WordPress….

lol, famous last words maybe… but that is the road I am on till proven it is wrong.

its frustrating at times but in the end i learn it better. I should probably have started with a pre built theme but i want to learn how to do it and be able to make it look exactly how i want and not have to rely soley on someone else’s themes.

Another perfect statement of my experience with WordPress. I have a feeling it is easier if you have never made websites any other way. Experience seems to make it harder to learn.

That said, I have learned recently to get a good part of the control of pages I have been striving for. I think you are on the right road, assuming you have a reason for having to implement in WordPress. The only reason I am developing in WordPress is that it is required by some of my clients.

Satch Boogie, I just modified the template to say hello to you. I left the comments in there, visible in the screenshot of the template code, and also in the page source at this link:
https://houston-websites.org/prototypes/WordPress/TransitionIn/sample-page/

The only thing I changed from the screenshot was to put the message to you after the <!–comments–>

I hope this makes sense.

@danallenhouston Ok, i have done that but how does that become a page or how do i turn that into a page?

If you have added the template, it will appear in the list of templates available for a page, in page edit. Here is a link to a screen shot of the Template File where it goes in the directory:
https://houston-websites.org/DansDemos/WordPress/Templatefile.png

This screenshot shows the drop down box on the right, under Page Attributes, for selecting the template for a page:
https://houston-websites.org/DansDemos/WordPress/AssigningTemplateToPage.png

If your template is created correctly, it will appear in that drop down.