hammerschmidt

hello, the issue i mentioned about a month ago is not as diverse or complicated as it may sound but actually pretty simple:

professional blogs and news-sites work with third-party plugins for their newsletters, which do not recognize the subtitle-field (since it is a custom-field built by your plugin) but rather work with standard excerpts of the posts content (which is also the way that most news-themes grab some attention-seeking content from the first few lines of an article to display it with the headline and an image in all sorts of layout-blocks, typically followed by a few dots (….) and a “read more”-button which links to the entire post/article/whatever.

I guess I’m right when I’m assuming that the typical usage of a subtitle would be some sort of “after the headline-“- teaser- information about the following post/article – or in other words an intro to the rest of the content.

i just mentioned those 3rd party-software-names to name a few popular examples which I had already tested but not to raise a bigger number of issues for it remains the same and single one: when building a newsletter with any given tool that pulls in posts from the backend you will end up with a headline and the content of the post. the subtitle, as the teaser info, or “intro” will be missing (if you don’t repeat yourself and write the content of the subtitle into the beginning of the posts body-content as well) since 3rd party solutions work with headlines, excerpts (of the content), and the content itself.

I don’t know if you look at this as an issue or rather a general concern regarding the usage of subtitles in general, but all i want to say is that if you use a subtitle – and you probably do it because it is a nice way of displaying important teaser-and intro-information – you will loose this very information if you start sending out newsletters (with whatever solution) since they do not know or recognize that your teaser-text/intro is in an extra field called “subtitles” or “_subtitle”.
cheers!

p.s. I’m currently looking for a databasequery which could help me add my subtitles to the beginning of the content (maybe
in between) so i could use/reference older articles in newsletters as well…without the information of the subtitles missing from the content. I’d highly appreciate any help in combining subtitles and content inside of the content!!!

sure, if you find the time check out the appearance of the subtitles in the mailpoet drag’n’ drop editor and (the newsletter-editor for gmail-users:) flashissue (it won’t recognize them as well) …
have a nice day, cheers!

Hello,
thanks for your kind reply.
as stated in my initial post I had aleady tried the custom template tags – to no avail.
they just didn’t grab the subtitle into portfolio-modules (which are considered to be outside of the loop) on the front page.
to complete this thread (also for others) I want to show what I found to be working – just by combining the (above) mentioned method (that worked for some other theme-related subtitle)- at the very spot – with the information I took from the documentation and this forum (regarding the names of the subtitle-meta-key etc.):

<?php $subtitle = get_the_subtitle($this->post->ID, ‘_subtitle’, true); ?>
<p class=“entry-subtitle”><?php echo $subtitle;?>

cheers!

That would be awesome, thanks!

thanks a lot!
even though i must admit that – from a simple user’s point of view – an implemented switch would be cool, too, i really think there’s something more to gain here ??

cheers!