Matoca

I am looking forward to seeing your work! I chose your theme early one because I wanted the site to work on phones and I didn’t see many themes that had that capability. A majority of the owners who needed help with their dogs were in the vet’s office and while waiting they were trying to find information about AIHA on the internet. Even bbPress works on the phone! I liked it because I could get into the dashboard and work with just my phone. So your ideas about mobile app support are exactly what I need.
My best, Patrice

Unsal,
I am STILL USING YOUR THEME even now after all the changes in WP, since 2013, it manages to be resilient with every WP update. I’m still running this volunteer site for dogs that suffer serious hematological diseases. I’ve had some problems with older plugins that weren’t supported for a long time that I needed to make it a more robust educational website. bbPress is still absolutely working properly and that is a big source of our forum for owners with sick dogs. We’ve helped save many hundreds of dogs lives. Your color scheme in blue still looks great for a doggie site. The font is fantastic. See Secondchanceaihadogs.com

I went looking for you last night on the internet, hoping you might resurface and tweek this fantastic theme. Your concept of open source is incredibly important. I can’t tell you how many of my themes I bought through Envato have failed me. The developers load the theme with proprietary plugins that break when they never bothered to upgrade those important development plugins, like WPBakery. I want to rebuild my other sites on this theme. Of course I want to pay for this. If Envato sells me a junky theme for $60 and charges me the same to get professional help every 6 months, what is $120 to have a quality built theme for a site, worth it’s weight in gold. There must be other ways to reimburse you for your work, gift cards?

Do this for those of us who appreciate the work that volunteers like yourself around the world still provide in the WordPress world. I’d gladly put some freebee advertising on my site to promote you.

Please do this, those who appreciate a perfectly built WordPress theme will come back to your work.
My best, Matoca

@coe13
My site is still a mess. Neither codeless or WPBakery work. But the worst is that customizer is dead too. Opening the pages to edit, I simply see html and css plus a lot of junk in the editor all jumbled together. There are NO BLOCKS. I’ve tried to get help from Codeless, WPBakery and they keep telling me to let them visit the dashboard. Then once they do, they say they can’t help me. They never say why the pages look like crap. And WPBakery had the nerve, after several weeks of me asking for help, to notify me later that my support has just expired and I should renew to get support. Pay them for support they told me they couldn’t give me before?

I’ve been carefully viewing the mess with Chrome developer tools, using inspector. I can find the multiple areas that are changed and need editing but I’d have to figure out how to edit the php and is the php even normal now? That’s drastic considering Codeless, WPBakery are installed and even Gutenberg blocks but none of them work. I’d say that’s pretty broken.

Handel is a pretty robust theme that came with lots of templates and downloads like a slider. It’s all trash now. Codeless was an easy way to do some easy page development but now when opened, it has lost functionality. I could rebuild but I have to do it offline and WPBakery won’t allow me to use my licensed version on flywheel local on my home desktop. And Codeless only allows one use of templates and sliders. I’d have to be rebuilding live online. I can’t do that to my client.

All this because Kirki Developer used a new version that crashed my site and lots of others. It corrupted some path and I am not advanced enough to know how to undo that.

• This reply was modified 2 years, 9 months ago by Matoca.

I have a Codeless theme called Handel that, when I bought it, contains WPBakery plus Codeless. The Codeless relies on Kirki Developer Framework. I see now that Handel is being advertised on theme forest with plugins you can purchase to add on to the theme, one of them being Visual Composer.

3 days ago the Kirki Developer Framework changed to 4.0 and 4.0.4 and crashed a lot of Codeless sites. There is an directory error in the new version that causes Codeless sites to crash.

Right now I have an older version of Kirki that I downloaded so I could actually get my site back up online. But when I view the home page for editing, all the WPBakery plus Gutenberg blocks are gone and it’s just one page of html code mixed with junk like numbers. I am trying to rebuild the site as best as I can, but only customizer works.

I do have another installation of the same site on local desktop. The WPBakery and Gutenberg blocks show on the page, but when I try to edit the content, there is nothing to edit when I select a box. It’s clear if I do anything to edit, the blocks are going to disappear.

Since theme forest Handel is now offering Visual Composer as a purchased addon does this mean I can uninstall WPBakery and install Visual Composer to fix my site? I’m trying to save the site I already built. I like the Handel templates. But I can’t edit anything anymore.

Thank you for this information. I appreciate your help very much. I am always overwhelmed at the graciousness of the thousands of volunteers who spend time helping others.

Thank you! This is exactly what I need to know, sorry for the confusion. I simply need to know if the plugin will be upgraded. However, the developer of the theme has refused to include updating other plugins of importance, such as WPBakery, so I can assume they won’t bother with this either. Notable is that ThemeForest is now requiring developers to treat 2nd party plugins as unique and separate from the theme package, possibly this means they must update their own developer licenses and update the themes. Before now they always advised me to get my own licensed version of a plugin. If the theme developer doesn’t update WPBakery it’s unlikely they will bother with Kirki Developer Framework and I am using a Codeless theme. So I am dead in the water.

Though I understand the file path was altered and the implications of that, pardon my lack of knowledge about exactly how to fix this, are we supposed to find this line somewhere and change it or will a new version be released that will include the change? I rolled back to the last version that was available for download so I can get my site back up.

It was mighty tricky getting back into my site this morning. Luckily Bluehost has a way to get back into the dashboard. Last night all I could do was put up a “website under construction” page. I downloaded an older version of Kirki Framework plugin and installed it. I made sure to turn off autoupdate. It worked to get my site up. But the home page is a mess. My WPBakery and Gutenberg blocks no longer exist, there’s just a single page of jumbled and messed up code in the editor. Trying to fix it with Codeless is frustrating. The site is up but looks very different. The front page is supposed to be full width but it thinks there is a right sidebar, that I can’t delete. Luckily I have a good portion of the site on a local development server on my desktop. But I also started building another site with a different theme just in case. Better to have 2 ways to get a site up. I’ve spent probably 10 hours trying to find the issue and resolve it.

My client’s site crashed around 9pm EST last night. Today I had to use FTP to rename my plugins so I could get into my dashboard. I started the process of enabling plugins one at a time. I need Codeless and that must have Kirki enabled. Once I enabled Kirki the site crashed again. I see that the Kirki ver is 4.0.3, apparently an attempt to fix the problem. Github is waiting for Codeless to resolve the issue. Meanwhile I am browsing new themes to find one that isn’t reliant on addon plugins that the developers refuse to update. WPBakery is one of my headaches, WordFence reported this plugin as potentially dangerous a long time ago but repeated requests to the developer to update it were denied. “It will work just fine with the version you have.”

Here are the Error Details of this failure.
An error of type E_ERROR was caused in line 3 of the file /home4/****/public_html/wp-content/plugins/codeless-page-builder/include/core/kirki-setup/codeless_custom_section.php. Error message: Uncaught Error: Class ‘WP_Customize_Section’ not found in /home4/****/public_html/wp-content/plugins/codeless-page-builder/include/core/kirki-setup/codeless_custom_section.php:3

My client’s site crashed around 9pm EST last night. Today I had to use FTP to rename my plugins so I could get into my dashboard. I started the process of enabling plugins one at a time. I need Codeless and that must have Kirki enabled. Once I enabled Kirki the site crashed again. I see that the Kirki ver is 4.0.3, apparently an attempt to fix the problem. Github is waiting for Codeless to resolve the issue. Meanwhile I am browsing new themes to find one that isn’t reliant on addon plugins that the developers refuse to update. WPBakery is one of my headaches, WordFence reported this plugin as potentially dangerous a long time ago but repeated requests to the developer to update it were denied. “It will work just fine with the version you have.”

Here are the Error Details of this failure.
An error of type E_ERROR was caused in line 3 of the file /home4/****/public_html/wp-content/plugins/codeless-page-builder/include/core/kirki-setup/codeless_custom_section.php. Error message: Uncaught Error: Class ‘WP_Customize_Section’ not found in /home4/****/public_html/wp-content/plugins/codeless-page-builder/include/core/kirki-setup/codeless_custom_section.php:3

Rob,
I can’t thank you enough for your help! It was that simple, add it as the Featured Image. You have excellent knowledge about Gutenberg blocks!

I’m not sure why there isn’t any information about posts when transitioning to Gutenberg blocks. It would be helpful to have a flow chart of how dated posts or “blogs” (as they are called when using them in blocks) are organized and managed as group features on a page. There must be other attributes for these special pages. It would be even neater if there was the ability to use icons in a sidebar next to the blog titles.
Thanks, Matoca

Thank you! I’ve not seen this information anywhere! There must be a “blog” insert into Gutenberg content block documentation somewhere but I couldn’t find anything. I’ll try this!

I inserted the images from the media into the page next to the text and aligned the image left. No featured image. There must be some contribution from WP that manages inserting “blog” into a content block. I dont know how to control settings for that process.

Just a thought. I’ve been following this a bit. I had similar problems a while back. Following the “utf” instructions helped but then it returned depending on the email client I was viewing. Also my moderators were variable, most not seeing it, but others that did.

I eventually came to my own conclusion that it had something to do with the default WordPress email handler. (Which was also causing Bluehost grief.)

I did install and set up Postman SMTP on my site. Not an easy task with Bluehost, but eventually got it right. That helped significantly.

I no longer see the utf surrounding the email subjects. So I think it’s a combination of Bluehost issues and email client issues. I most often saw it in my EarthLink webmail and sometimes in Thunderbird. My moderator in Australia on a web only email client on her iPad never saw it.

Vinny,
There’s only two of us right now getting emails but I have had plenty of trouble with Bluehost about the fact that I was engaged in “spamming” and all of my mail had been blocked without notifying me. They made me list the addresses of my moderators, 6 at that time, their names, what the emails were for and why I wasn’t engaged in spamming. Then they would unlock my emails.

Very frustrating. It took me a while to set it up since I had to learn how WP normally sends mail and how I could bypass that, but I finally started using the SMTP plugin Post STMP. Great plugin that helped me with all the settings with Bluehost and also logs all the emails sent in my dashboard. Now I don’t get blocked by Bluehost anymore.

Lately I’ve been getting mail blocked by one of the extra email ISP’s I use for a backup to the backup. “Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 421 4.7.0 [TSS04] Messages from *.*.*.* temporarily deferred due to user complaints – 4.16.55.1; see”

Notifications are really critical for both of us since I am in the US and the other moderator is in Sydney!
My best, Patrice

This is not a problem since I receive two other copies via a forwarder and another email address.