Oceanwatcher

If your system is running fine, there should be no need to change anything.

Do you mean the permissions within WordPress or filepermissions in Linux?

This problem is well known and nobody really has a solution yet. PHP runs as the Apache user or as “nobody” and that of course will set the same owner for the files/folders.

Really big problems arises if permissions on the files/folders are not set to 777. But I found some things that MIGHT give a clue to the root of the problem. I made a post about it here:

https://www.ads-software.com/support/topic/213163?replies=2#post-885410

You could of course ask your admin to chown -R all files and folders, but this has to be done as root. Something most people on hosted domains usually do not have for obvious reasons ??

class-ftp.php seems to contain exactly this problem.

I hope someone is taking a look at this and verify it or also can tell us that it is different and working ok.

upgrade.php also uses the umask function/variable, but in a different way.
class-wp-filesystem-direct.php also cintains a umask statement, but with no value set.

The problem seem to be that the scripts are setting owner to “nobody”. This effectively disables the usefullness of automatic upgrades and there should be a way around it.

If you have a working setup and upgrade a plugin, it will delete the old plugin. When the script puts the new version in place, the files will be registered with “nobody” as owner, resulting in a huge problem for anyone that do not have access to root. This is of course the majority of the people out there…

I for one would love to have styles in feeds. The author is putting thought into how the article is presented, where the picture goes etc. And yes, I really would like the article to be presented that way in my feedreader, not in a crappy text view. I know there are some people that would rather have an article without any pictures and with a monospaced font so it takes us back to the typewriter days. But that just is not very readable!

I totally agree that the styling preferrably should be in an external css file. But as far as I know, there are no possibility to send this with a feed so far. Maybe this would be a good addition to the RSS standard ??

I agree that something like this should be done in a very clear way with advice how to get it working the way it should work. Just taking it out like it has been done now makes a lot of frustration and can seem a bit arrogant for the normal users. This is something that forces all template authors to update their templates.

It would be nice to get some response from somebody that is close to the core programmers on this request. I think it is a critical thing, because I am sure it keeps a lot of people from upgrading their blogs.

And unsecured blogs with difficult upgrade routines could give WordPress a bad reputation.

Sorry for pulling up an old thread again, but this just echoed my thoughts very well…

An easy way to upgrade is really needed. The five step upgrade might be easy for anyone that likes hacking code, but for any non-programmer that just want to install a blog and make sure it is updated and secure, the upgrading can seem scary.

First thing that needs to be done:

Remove the subfolder in the zip file. This is a real annoyance. I never install WordPress in a subfolder as I run it as the main CMS on the sites where I use it. So upgrading is always a pain. Installing in a subfolder is again no problem if you are a programmer, can fix your .htaccess so nobody will notice it etc. But generally it is a bad idea to force this on people. If you want it in a subfolder, then create the subfolder of your choice and unzip it there. Most people do not have shell access to their hosting account. But many have cPanel. And in cPanel your only option is to unzip as is…

Second:

Make increment upgrades available (is this the right word?).

2.0-2.0.5.zip
2.0.1-2.0.5.zip
2.0.2-2.0.5.zip
2.0.3-2.0.5.zip
2.0.4-2.0.5.zip

Any older than 2.0 will have to upgrade to 2.0 first.

This system is being used for Joomla at the moment and works great. Takes the whole problem out of upgrading. Just ftp the upgrade to your root installation and use cPanel to unzip it. Done.

A good upgrade function in WordPress would be to have a tool that check the www.ads-software.com server for new versions and alert you when you log on to the admin panel. Then have a button that download the upgrade and unzip it. Basically a little more automated version of the one above. This method only deals with WordPress files, so it does not matter what OS you are on.

I think we all can agree that keeping all WordPress installations secure is a must. But with the current way to upgrade, a lot of people do not fix things until it is broken. And this has to be addressed.

The reason why I do not like unzipping and rezipping to get rid of the subfolder, is that I am hosting my websites on a Linux server, and doing anything to files on a windows PC tends to always break something…

BTW – I have noticed that some people do a diff and make it available online. This is fine, but for security reasons, this should be done by the WordPress team.

Nice site. Mine is at https://www.wisnaes.net

Spencerp: I am sorry to reply so late, I have real problems finding things here until I found the only real search… There search field on the top should not actually be called search. Tag sift is more correct.

On to your answer – Yes and no. You are right in the sense that it is similar to what I want. But it is also really far from anything usable for anyone with a normal hosting account.

The person in this example has used a diff file and apply it with a patch command. You can only do this with shell access to the server. Not many people has that. And cPanel do not have it as far as I know ?? The only thing that would work is a zip file with only the files that has changed. And here is the most important thing: The zip file must NOT have a folder inside as the first “level” of the zip. Then you will not be able to unzip it in the root of your WP installation.

I really have my hopes up for something like this in the future.

Flashfader. Check my site at https://www.wisnaes.net

This upgrade could have been done a lot easier…

Am I saying it is not possible to do? Absolutely not. But you have to have an over the average interest in computers to do it this way. And I think thousands of WordPress sites will never be upgraded. Here are two suggestions that could make life a lot easier:

1. Make an upgrade plug-in that show new patches on the dashboard and will upgrade WP for you when you click “Install this upgrade”. It is definitely possible.

2. Until 1 happens, make patches in the form of .zip files with only the changed files in the exact same folder structure. Make sure the patch is made so when you unzip it, it do NOT create any WordPress folder. Then it will work for everyone that uses WordPress as the only system installed in root. You only need to upload this file to the root of the web folder and unzip it, overwriting the old files.

The last method is used by Joomla and works like a charm. You can update 10 websites in the same amount of minutes.

I am really not looking forward to the “delete this and that, upload this and that” routine for every security upgrade.

Why not make upgrading as easy as the posting?

I just realised that anyone viewing my page with IE does not see what I mean… I am using Firefox as my regular browser and there the template is showing as it should. BEHIND the new slideshow header. I just wish I could make this work somehow.

I guess nobody know anything about this, then….

If you know anything about templates, please take a look at let me know if you think it is possible to do what I want.

Both. The question, I guess is if it is possible to place a text (both the menu and the blognam etc) on top of the slideshow.

You can see how it look with a static header… It is showin above the slideshow. So what I actually want is to have the slideshow looking like the background that is showing above it…

I know I am not explaining this very well. English is not my first language. Also, I am not a web programmer. But I am able to change code and actually sometimes understand what I am doing ??

If you have seen the Connections theme, you know how it looks at the top. All I want is to make the picture into a slideshow. And the Flashfader plug-in does it beautifully. But the text and links seem to be a problem…

The colors of the text will of course have to change to be more visible, but that is something I am going to think of after I have the layout as I want it.