skygazer

Hey David, GREAT NEWS! Just literally a minute ago I logged in to my WP dash to prepare to do some work and I noticed an update alert for your plugin and so I clicked okay to update and it completed the update with no issues and then in a naive wishful kind of way I say to myself, “maybe the update has fixed the problem I was having” and VOILA!!! it seems to have done just that.

I don’t now if it’s just co-incidence but either way I’m happy it works again ??

I like your plugin so much that if my site stays afloat after a year and I’m financially able to, I will like to get your pro version.

I hope this good fortune of it working properly continues.

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Hi David, thank for responding.

Okay here are some of the plugin messages:

“The current run is resumption number 9, and there was nothing useful done on the last run (last useful run: ) – will not schedule a further attempt until we see something useful happening this time (May 24 17:35:22)”

I’m not sure what’s logged on the server but I’m using cloud flare and it just shows three stages (Me + Cloudflare + Server and only the server is in red with 520 error)

As for the plugin error log message, would it be okay if I copy pasted it to here?

After taking a break from this, I’m back. I’ve given up on the perfecting of the caching for now and am now focusing on another aspect to improve user experience. I figured out one part of what was causing the hang or “lock up” during the load process and by that I mean I couldn’t scroll or do anything till the page finished completely loading. Here’s one way I was able to somewhat kind of bandaid that specific issue. The site is set up with a fixed BG image and apparently because of some poor coding or crappy load sequence or whatever the user has to wait till the BG image and everything else is fully loaded before they are able to do ANYTHING on the site. I accidentally discovered when I took the fixed BG image option off and put it to “scrollable” BG image the user is not locked out from scrolling while the page is loading but alas this highlighted another problem because even though now this allowed the user to scroll while the page continued to load, it still would not allow links to be click on till the whole entire load was completed whereas every other site I know of in existence allows the user to click even while the page is loading. So now even though one could scroll while the page was loading, nothing they scrolled to could be clicked on till the load completely finished.

So I went about trying to find what differences existed on every other site that works properly (which for the record is every single other wp site I’ve ever come across except mine) Anyway so I set off to compare and I find this main difference. I looked at the wp-includes folder for every one of the other sites and I see that they ALL have Jquery in their wp-includes folder and mine does NOT have it at all. They also have a few other items that mine doesn’t have but that Jquery was common to all of them.

I then did some reading and it seems that Jquery is used to call on functions (if I understand correctly) so I’m assuming that being missing from my site is causing this issue? I would love to get some experienced/educated feedback/input on this as I’m desperate to improve the user experience on my site. It’s amazing how hard it is to find a good person to fix these issues that should be easy for someone that knows this stuff (sigh).

It was the weirdest thing, just after I had posted on here and was all happy that caching was working great, I went back to take one last look before signing off and the problem was back ?? I’ve been busting my head trying to figure out why it would just stop caching from page to page when just like that even though no setting were changed the whole entire time that it was working. The only thing I could figure that would make any changes is the daily cache time out on the WP Fastest Cache plug in and it might be that after that then it stopped caching. NOTE: it does cache fine when/IF I use the browser arrows to go back or forward but no caching if I use my inpage navigation like home or going to an article or any link on the page..so weird! I also did some reading on leverage browser caching and I wonder if the httaccess settings on the server might need looking at..

Anyway in the meantime I got 5 seconds when I did the gtmetrix test. I then compared it with other’s like you suggested and it is on par with some and better than many, this totally surprises me for this very important reason…ALL the sites that resulted in a slower rating than mine all load blazing fast compared to my site…so weird!

from the test it seems like the main issue on my site (the only one in red and set as HIGH priority) is the JS defer. While I do see a setting for that in the JCH Pro optimizing plugin it warns this can break a page so I resist messing with it, I’d rather a working page with issue than not working at all.

Soo, the “saga” continues…

OKay so a little update: I hired a guy that is fairly knowledgeable with Linux and that stuff to look at stuff on server and he also has knowledge with WP as well and him and I worked it out to the W3 Total Cache not being nice with my existing stuff so we went back to WP Fastest Cache and my internal pages are caching once again (woo hoo!).

My home (front) page load is still snailsville but I guess I will have to always live with that until someday I can afford to have someone good build me a new theme/setup. But I am much happier now that at least once someone is ON the site at least in general most pages are loaded in 1-2 seconds so no more stress on that part.

James, thanks for taking the time and for the recomendation/suggestion and continued efforts with not only mine but others issues..good show!

HI James, I totally get what you mean with the mechanic reference.

I will attempt to ask the person who did the “optimization” even though I asked them once before and their only reply was “I did it with the JCH plugin” I know for a fact though that they also messed a bit with the server seide because they had asked me for the server access as well and they told me at one point that my server cache module was not on and they turned it on.

It is so hard to find knowledgeable people who take pride in what they do, it all about just quantity and quality just goes out the window and most of them care less as long as they see the cash piling up ??

Ah well I will try to contact him and see IF I can prod anything out of him. My only other recourse failing any useful info from him would be to “TRY” and find someone to take a look at those things you mentioned on the server.

It’s a self managed vps and I have no clue how to do anything except for the very very basic things.

Thanks so far.

Yes, problem there even with cache cleared.

I HAVE also attempted to remove the cache plugin, it did not change the situation any.

I’m no expert but I have to lean towards the fact that whatever render blocking was removed is at fault but how on Earth would that be reversed?

What creates those render blocks in the first place, ie. is it the Parent theme scripts, child theme scripts etc? Sorry if that has nothing to do with anything I am just grasping at solutions.

Sorry I wasn’t clear, when I say I did clear/purge..I meant I did so whenever I made any changes. I’ve used WP Fastest Cache in the past (no complaints) but I’m currently using W3TC (and yes I even went back to WP Fastest Cache but to see if the cache plugin was the problem but it wasn’t so I switched back again to W3TC).

This might be useful, the plugins that the person who did the optimization used are JCH pro and possibly Autoptimize. I say “possible for the second one because it was added to my plugin list after the person did their work but it was not active so not sure if it was used at all or maybe they were going to use it but didn’t.

I am and have been using a cache plugin and yep I did clear/purge cache.

I apologize in advance, I don’t have a solution but wanted to add that my WP site also has issues with Safari. When I check Google Analytics for different browsers average load times Safari is a staggering 32.0 seconds! so something must be wrong somewhere…Insane!

I’m not really looking for advice but just wanted to mention that it would seem we are probably not alone. Maybe Safari sucks?

So I had the files from the older backup replace the current (everything except the DB) and then proceeded to try the load and unfortunately issue remains. I then did a Google insight rest and the amount of render blocking was unchanged (which simply confirms the problem was not resolved).

I never thought removing too many render blocking would cause pages to load slower, thanks a lot Google page insight ??

I’m betting no one will know how to solve this lol

Great, thanks, that’s exactly the detail I was looking for, I appreciate it. Will update once I attempt the steps and/or have more Q’s..hopefully the former.

oop’s sorry I didn’t notice the part where you suggested I start with the theme..sorry about that I was just so happy to get an answer ??

I will take that as the first step and see what happens.

Ok.

Now how about if I was to just restore the backup I mentioned I had the night before the optimization, in theory would that not cover any degree of optimization (ie, undo it)?

And IF so would I then be able to update that older backup’s content with my current content?

Hello…oh I was replying to the original poster, didn’t realize his post was from 6 momths ago..lol..sorry abut that.