truebird

@clorith Hi.

See https://www.screencast.com/t/g2GEDjHt20AO

Can you let me know some ideas here?

Also, I will be chiming in on a couple of the other issues that could improve the plugin’s reliability a bit later.

Thanks.

Thanks Thomas,

I have made the widgets go into a Group with the new widget blocks per https://docs.generatepress.com/article/grouping-widgets/

But, they are now not Fixed. I can not find where to make the Group a Fixed block or set of widgets now. Where is that?

Once that is done, I think you will have what you need for the background right?

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Greg

Thomas,

Yes. Exactly. Ok. It is wingdom(dot)store/shop

Let me know.

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Greg

Hey folks.

If you could chime in on this and specifically #1 for now that would be great?

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Greg

@thefiddler Ah…cool…I see.

Sounds like a plan…

Thanks for the recommendations. I will check those out.

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Greg

@thefiddler

Fantastic and thanks for letting me know!

I will test it all out.

Also, I was wondering, I would love to actually be able to include some feedback comments from Help Scout that would show up as well. My idea is that if we got permission from the person, we could add a special tag to the conversation (or some other way) in Help Scout to where it would be pushed out to the plugin for availability. Then, in the plugin somewhere in the settings we could grab a embed code/shortcode and create some basic look and feel (like show 4 across with 4 rows or however one wanted to show them) and scroll left every x seconds or not scroll them). Randomize them or show in a certain order etc. Starting with basic ability and then adding more features over time as you can would be great. What are your thoughts on something like that?

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Greg

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Frank,

Ah…ok.

That is good to know that it is not relying on criticalcss.com to where if their site goes down it causes issues with ours.

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Greg

Thanks Frank.

Ok.

If and when their site goes down, does it affect our sites if we have the plugin enabled?

I have disable the plugin for now cause I was seeing too many “Review” notices on css items and when I went to criticalcss.com the site it was down.

Let me know if you find out anything and I will to you as well here.

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Greg

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@sumobi

Just wondering if this is good to go now and ok to still use?

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Greg

Frank,

Ok, so, you feel I can leave my Comet Cache PRO settings as is and just use these options here https://www.screencast.com/t/5e3mlGjvFVB2 for the Critical CSS part and be ok then right?

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Greg

Frank,

Ah…ok. So, you do not feel I would need the Critical CSS plugin at all with Comet Cache PRO installed and enabled networkwide with any subsites right? Just to confirm . . . you feel all “Critical CSS” is actually handled by Comet Cache PRO sufficiently?

So, I can use all other “parts” of AutoOptimize as long as the other “parts” do not have anything to do with JS/CSS optimizations (i.e. like the preconnect, google fonts, CDN option, features etc . . . which may fill in the gaps where Comet Cache PRO has no options for) OR do you feel it best, in my case, since I really can not disable Comet Cache PRO at all cause it is on a network and effects other subsites to just disable totally?

My biggest question is to be sure we know that Comet Cache PRO is actually fulfilling the needs of “Critical CSS” for sure or not?

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Greg

Frank,

Hi.

The red E in the plugin itself now criticalcss.com?

I can not really turn off Comet Cache Pro as it is NETWORK ACTIVATED and turning it off would turn off all subsites using it just for one site using AutoOptimize if that makes sense. So, in my case, what you do think given this on your prior advice on “JS/ CSS minification in Comet Cache being turned off then”? What are other options? If both are on could it be fine potentially for the one site I am using AutoOptimized on?

Oh, ok, but I am confuse a bit on this, “if Comet handles CSS opt, you won’t have critical CSS ?? Async JS can be off (when using AO it’s only relevant non-local JS if you have that)” on what you mean? Could you clarify a bit more? Comet Cache does handle CSS as you can see from the screenshot here https://www.screencast.com/t/haQpAD0c at the the top BUT I do not think it handles Critical CSS OR does it?

On this, “Async JS can be off (when using AO it’s only relevant non-local JS if you have that)” You mean only enable if there is external JS bring in content from another server right? Or something else? We do have external JS like for services from google, facebook, bing, cdn, other misc likely that run JS code for various reasons (adsense was displaying ads but we disabled adsense)

Lastly, what about the CDN question . . . ? Here Lastly, see this https://www.screencast.com/t/MErXWxfzeLt regarding if I should use the CDN part if it will not conflict with my Comet Cache Pro CDN settings? See the bottom part of this screenshot for the Comet Cache CDN settings I have now enabled https://www.screencast.com/t/haQpAD0c Can I use AO CDN settings without conflict and would using it provide more benefit or not? Here are some we preconnect too for example https://www.screencast.com/t/pc421H7Gy (some may show content like live chat and some may be for tracking purposes etc). Let me know?

Thanks Frank!

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Greg

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Hey Frank,

I have been digging in deeper and thank you. I am testing different ways. I will test again with turning off (unticking) the Force Path Based rules again.

Would it be a good idea/workflow to where if your system shows a red error to just create a manual path for that particular page with something like this https://www.sitelocity.com/critical-path-css-generator (that seems to work if yours comes back with a red error on some pages).

Also, on a slightly different note, on a WordPress MULTISITE Network install (or this question applies to singles too), I have Comet Cache PRO installed and Network activated. We use these HTML Compression settings already and scroll down some sites use a CDN with keycdn.com (see https://www.screencast.com/t/haQpAD0c ). Here is my question, since we use these settings, where AutoOptimize setting would conflict and should be turned off. I have recently turned off all AutoOptimize setting I felt would be a issue. Also, I disabled Async Javacript plugin too until I heard back from your opinion. Here are the current settings I have and am only now using parts of AutoOptimize I feel will not conflict with Comet Cache and have Asynce Javacript plugin disabled (see here https://www.screencast.com/t/bBjoblru8B and https://www.screencast.com/t/98hpZfyzjjCp and https://www.screencast.com/t/lZ3LhzoQjbBw and Async Javascript plugin just totally disabled for now).

So, in AutoOptimize I am using right now:

1. Just the Optimize CSS Code portion that is related to using the Critical CSS plugin of course.

2. No image options tab (using Lazy Loading with WPMUDEV in a different tool/plugin along with optimizations FYI so do not need that part).

3. In Extra tab I am using the Google Fonts not render-blocking option and the preconnect only option).

Do you feel I could safely turn on any other AutoOptimize features that would not conflict with my Comet Cache Pro settings shown above OR am I on the right track with what I can and can not enable without conflicting similar services with Comet Cache PRO now?

Lastly, see this https://www.screencast.com/t/MErXWxfzeLt regarding if I should use the CDN part if it will not conflict with my Comet Cache Pro CDN settings?

and will Async Javascript or any parts of that plugin be ok to enable with my Comet Cache Pro consideration?

Looking forward to hearing your insights on these things.

I think I am close to getting in all synced up I hope . . . smile.

Greg

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Hey there Frank,

Ok. Here is my challenge I am experiencing I think then:

I have tried using Force path-based rules here https://www.screencast.com/t/x74wXWkiq because some pages where not looking right without it. That seemed to work good . . . for a while. However, as more and more stylesheets were added I believe the site start slowing and dramatically on some pages and our bounce rates skyrocketed too. I did a little research and found https://alexwright.net/blog/web-design/how-to-use-critical-css/ and if you scroll down about 1/8th down the page you will see a section called “Challenges”. See #3 which reads, “Your website may load a ton of different CSS stylesheets” and then see Solutions. So, I disabled the Force path-based rules and disabled the tick box.

Without it, though, some of the pages do not look right, so, I was thinking that adding the manual rule would supplement the problem by adding some of the minified css that fixes the issue of some pages not showing right without it. I thought the manual rules and the auto rules worked together? Are you saying by adding a manual rule that makes all auto rules not work? When I did this, the site speed on most pages returned to acceptable levels again.

I hate to have to manually figure out which specific pages are not working or looking right.

How would you think the best way it is to address given the above?

I suppose, I can try it again to let it generate auto css without manual css added and see if it works to make all the pages look and function correctly now in the meantime.

Thanks a lot.

Let me know what you think?

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Greg

Frank,

Howdie. So far so good.

Just to confirm, when we add a manual New Rule like https://www.screencast.com/t/Suikealt for the String Path to apply to all pages, we use just the forward slash right (i.e. “/”) like https://www.screencast.com/t/C91LGKk8

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Greg